Why Christians and conservatives should accept evolution

How ironic..

 

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Hey Oniw17, please elaborate.

 

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Ok..

You really don't see the irony? Ok, What I'm about to say is seriously what I believe. Creationists are free to believe that a creator being just poofed fully formed species into existance, but to teach it in our schools, or to object to teaching the truth in our schools is just nonsensical. We don't teach that 2+2=3, because that's not the truth. There can't be two completely opposite answers to the same question, with both being right, it doesn't make any damn sense. You can't just give correctness to somebody because the religion that they ascribe themselves to chooses to be ignorant to the reality of existance. Sure, if you want to believe that, fine, but don't protest to have the textbooks changed to support your baseles belief. If that's what we're going to do then we have to teach everyone's specific belief set and tell the kids in the schools that they are all equally correct, depending on you perception of reality. Think about it, it doesn't make any sense, there's not enough time in a school day.

 

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Then let's teach scientific evolution, genetic variation within syngameons, not philosophical evolution (Darwinism), where goo supposedly morphed into you.

 

There is one thing I think is often missed or glossed over in this "debate"...

Even if Darwin's interpretation of the process of evolution is proved flawed (which it very well could be) that STILL doesn't prove that any God (nevermind a specific God) created all animals as fully formed beings, and it STILL doesn't make "Creationsim" science in any way.

 

A beautiful example of selective hypocrisy.

 

How is that supposedly selective hypocrisy?

 

lol

 

No explanation, just lol, pretty lame.

 

You selectively discard an entire body of evidence while accepting another in favor of magical thinking, without explanation, no less.

Selective hypocrisy.

 

To what body of supposed discarded evidence are you referring, and what is "while accepting another in favor of magical thinking" supposed to mean?

 

What's syngameons?

 

Groups of animals which can interbreed and produce offspring, up to the Family level in turtles and some other syngameons, and the Genus level in many other animal syngameons, so obviously, "species" is a meaningless term, to be junked.

 

Ahh, the concept of Species. Its useful for some situations, not so for others. Hence evolution looks more nowadays at gene flow, not who cant breed with whom. It matters not that you consdier the term species junk, since you so obviously fail to appreciate the rest of evolutionary biology.

 

PLease, give the appropriate quotes from Darwin when he says that lots of species interbreed.
Then, explain why this prevents ape like ancestors splitting off into different species, one becoming us humans, the other becoming, say, Bonobos.

 

I don't know that he ever said that, I said that, and it's true, lions can mate with tigers, camels with alpacas, buffalos with herefords, zebras with donkeys, dingos with chihuahas, on and on, so the term species is meaningless.

 

"Stop the habit of wishful thinking and start the habit of thoughtful wishes." ~~Mary Martin

 

Rather the term is useful within limits, as are most definitions, that's the nature of language.

If there is no real dividing line between species, then there is no real dividing line between evolution and "Darwinian evolution".

 

The term species isn't exactly meaningless, but taxonomically nomenclature pre-dates evolutionary biology, so naturally it's just a tad anitquated. Movements to revise the scientific names of organisms to better fit with what we now know about evolutionary biology have made some change but naturally a complete overhaul of scientific naming isn't really all that practical.

You are onto something, though with the idea that the concept of a species as a single unique unchanging group of organisms is extremely obsolete.

 

Sure, and goldfish can mate with elephants to produce wombats!!!!