What's your reason for being on Sciforums? The list above is a limited selection of possible choices, but in the end it comes down to one of three possible things: 1) You're learning from others who are more knowledgeable 2) You want to discuss what you're learning/ doing/ interested in with others 3) You're correcting others' misapprehensions (generally a losing proposition) Are you actually contributing to the forum, as a forum, or are you merely floating along and having fun? Do you care what you're posting (or what anyone else is posting), or is it "just the internet" and therefore essentially of no intrinsic worth? We have a number (a large number) of posters who contribute nothing but words - they might as well type with their eyes shut for all the genuine sense/ valid comments that their posts make* Is Sci something you come to simply because there's nothing on the box? Or are you here to contribute? Do you give a shit? At all? If pushed I could name possibly two dozen poster of genuine worth (regardless of whether or not I agree with them), and far far more who do little but interject, usually with something at a tangent, sometimes on-topic and relevant but trivial or just tripe. Is it me that's wrong in expecting something of actual value from a discussion forum? Is it a futile hope that it should have any validity? Or am I on the wrong track altogether and I'm missing the joke that's so obviously evident to maybe 70%+ of posters? Was Sciforums ever intended to be of worth (I got that impression when first arrived, possibly erroneously) and it's deteriorated drastically? Or did I miss that too? D H and Ben have made a policy of stamping down on crackpots, but they (the crackpots) don't seem to be called out by the general body of the members. Why not? Because it doesn't matter that barely educated half-wits are spewing specious crap all over the place or because it's not recognised for what it is?** Or again, am I simply in the wrong (or in a minority) that actually cares about this forum? * Since this could very well be my last ever thread I'll name (some) names: Bishadi, DwayneD. L. Rabon, ripleofdeath, voodoochile, Draqon, Tnerb... ** I hope, sincerely, that it's not the latter, otherwise I really, genuinely fear for future generations. Main footnote: if you picked an even numbered option please, please please, go away and don't come back. Join Facebook or look for a genuine crackpot site where you can be comforted by other ill- or non-educated fools.