Who killed Seth Rich?

Discussion in 'Conspiracies' started by Michael, May 18, 2017.

  1. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    Well, outside of Mainstream Russia Hysteria, it seems the truth is that the DNC's computers were not hacked 'by the Russians', but instead that DNC staffer Seth Rich leaked the thousands of emails to WikiLeaks.

    Not long after, he was murdered.

    Shot in the back and left for dead, with $2000 of valuables left on him, his watch and money in his wallet. Oh, and get this, he was alive while rushed to the hospital and 3 police officer's body cams have his dying words on their tapes.

    I wonder what he said?

    According to the DNC thugs that ran Washington for 8 years: Why good ole' boy Seth, he wus robbed by some dude while walking home. You know, because when you want to rob someone, you don't point a gun in their face and tell them to give you stuff, no no no, you shoot them in the back and run away without taking anything.

    I'm sure in a week we'll all hear about how it was Putin holding the gun, just ask DNC schill B.Sanders.
    LOL
     
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  3. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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  5. Capracus Registered Senior Member

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    It would seem to be the truth if you were from a Prison Planet. But the truth on the planet the rest of us live on appears somewhat different.

    Fox Stands By DNC Murder Conspiracy Theory Even After Main Source Changes Story

    Tuesday night, meanwhile, Wheeler changed his own story, telling CNN that he “only got” the information about a possible connection between Rich and WikiLeaks “from the reporter at Fox News,” and that he had no evidence of such a connection himself.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/fox-news-seth-rich_us_591cd078e4b034684b093717
     
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  7. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    Hundreds of people are killed in Washington every year (or month by the way things are going). Yet, out of all these deaths, for some odd reason, WikiLeaks has offers a $20K reward in murder of DNC staffer Seth Rich.

    Go figure.

    I'm sure there's absolutely no connection at all... not a single one.
     
  8. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

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    This is the thing that gets me about certain people who pretend to be informed: First the article about the source changing his story emerges, then an advocate posts a stupid propaganda thread somewhere in hopes of resetting the discussion to before the debunking.

    I knew a guy like that, once; the story gets vivisected, and spends the weekend being analyzed postmortem, but come Monday there he'd be, tail a'waggin', trying to pretend old news was new, and never mind the fact that the story is already debunked.

    Apparently, on the right wing this is an attractive, enviable, and potentially marketable skill.
     
  9. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, why would Russia offer a $20,000 reward? Probably for the same reason they've spent millions of dollars on subverting the US elections and protecting their man The Donald. Russia has spent a lot of money getting their man/asset in the White House. Spending a few thousand dollars to keep him there isn't much.

    The fact is your Seth Rich story has been debunked by all credible news agencies, the police, and Rich's family. Oops. It's those damn facts again Michael.

    Per the current CIA Director, Wikilinks is just an extension of the Russian government.
     
  10. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    LOL
    Joe, you are insane. There's zero evidence Russia had any meaningful effect on the US election. What? The Russians somehow got Suzy Jane to vote for Trump (white women turned out for Trump)? What? The Russians soured African Americans on Hillary (blacks did not turn out for Hillary)?

    People didn't like Hillary, so they didn't vote for her. Even the Demcrap base were pissed she railroaded B.Sanders (who schilled for her for some money anyway).

    Americans voted for Trump because he spoke them like the 4th-grade level they read at (thanks to Government Schooling). LOL
    So, they voted for him.
    Which is f*cking hilarious.
    I love it

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    As for the murder of Seth Rich, seems to me, someone wanted to make a point.
     
  11. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

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    So it would seem. A bunch of irredeemably sick human beings otherwise known as conservatives.

    Here's the deal: Either your dishonesty is a disease requiring special accommodation as a disability, or, well, it's not, and you need to stop poisoning this or any other community with your hatred.

    Get over yourself. You're just a bitter, disgraced expatriate who can't find anything nice to say about a country he apparently wasn't good enough to be a part of. Yeah, you can sit abroad and lob anti-American shit, just like the next coward hiding behind a terminal, and nobody else is supposed to be impressed.

    Seriously, your story is debunked. Get over yourself.
     
  12. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Can we please cesspool this fake news?
     
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  13. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    There's this:
     
  14. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    Wikileaks is part of the Russia narrative too?

    LOL

    If not for Wikileaks we wouldn't know our military officers were killing innocent civilians in Iraq.
     
  15. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    Fair and Balanced

    Daily Mail writes: Did he or didn't he?
    Murdered DNC staffer Seth Rich 'had WikiLeaks links' according to private investigator - but the victim's family have dismissed the PI's claims as 'fake evidence'
    • Seth Rich was gunned down in Washington DC as he walked home from a bar
    • DC police claimed the DNC data analyst, 27, was killed in a 'botched robbery'
    • A private investigator working on the case claims his death is being covered up
    • Rod Wheeler claims to have evidence Mr Rich was in contact with WikiLeaks
    • He also believes the authorities have been ordered to drop the investigation
    • But Rich's family called that 'fake evidence' and said they'd heard nothing
    • They said the claims were just a distraction from finding Rich's real killers
    • And they complained the PI was only supposed to speak with their authorization
    • Wheeler's services were offered to the family and paid for by a third party
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    So there's the possibility that Seth was walking home, and gunned down in his neighbourhood. Shot in the back and left to bleed out. Of course, this sort of thing happens day in and day out in the wonderful land of the USA. Following 100 years of progressive socialism, our cities are indeed the sort of places you would be shot in the back and left to bleed for a few scheckles in your pocket, or even for your shoes. Our cities are essentially 3rd world crap-holes at this point. Luckily, they'll only get worse as our regulated economy continues to decline. Yay.

    Oh, and me pointing this out, says nothing about me. It's a fact. The fact is, in Tokyo Japan, the world's most densely populated city, it's common to see 6-year-old children walking the streets to and fro without parents, or taking trains here and there. They're that safe. Modern cities don't have to be shit-holes. They can be THAT safe, we know this because the ones in Japan indeed are. I'd also note, when I'm working in China, guess what? Their mega cities are safe too. Nobody is gunned down and left to die in the street. The fact this sort of event isn't even news in the USA, is a sickness that should be pointed out. But, that'd lead to some uncomfortable conclusions - so, let's all move the suburbs and hope the crime doesn't follow too close (then we'll move to the countryside).

    Anyway, maybe the family's PI made the whole thing up right out of whole cloth? Perhaps it's just a coincidence Wikileaks offered a 20,000 reward for information about the murder of Seth Rich. Or maybe it's a sneaky Russian plot from a B-grade movie? Or, just maybe, Seth Rich was made an example of. Then again, as I stated above, our cities are so loathsome (at this point they're literally 3rd world status - worse even) that he could have been shot for the shits and giggles.

    That happens too in the USA.
     
  16. Capracus Registered Senior Member

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    A Russian mouthpiece quoting a Russian tool.

    WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange has not said Rich was its source. WikiLeaks, meanwhile, offered a $20,000 reward for information leading to the conviction of Rich’s murderer.

    “Whistleblowers go to significant efforts to get us material and often [face] very significant risks,” Assange told Dutch television in 2016. “There’s a 27-year-old who works for the DNC who was shot in the back, murdered, just a few weeks ago for unknown reasons, as he was walking down the streets in Washington.”

    WikiLeaks later clarified that Assange’s words “should not be taken to imply that Seth Rich was a source for WikiLeaks or to imply that his murder is connected to our publications.”

    https://www.rt.com/usa/388605-dnc-seth-rich-wikileaks/


    You needed Wikileaks to figure that out? Why would would you expect otherwise from an urban combat situation?
     
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  17. wellwisher Banned Banned

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    They have been investigating the Trump and Russian connection since Trump won the election. There is still no hard evidence. Maybe they need to investigate the DNC hit squad murder, for just as long. This murder could be connected to the mystery of the alleged Russian connection, with that a distraction coverup. The new FBI director may reopen this case. The DNC better start hiding evidence and using their hit squad to kill any witnesses or they will be fried. This is the real reason for the delay in justice for Seth.

    The same anonymous source that the main stream media uses said that this murder was done by the DNC.
     
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  18. Capracus Registered Senior Member

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    Reopen the case? There doesn't seem to be any indication that the FBI ever investigated this crime. Maybe the Fox affiliate that is still peddling the story could clear up this discrepancy.
     
  19. wellwisher Banned Banned

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    The FBI knows of this case, but was asked to stand down. This puts the DNC under the microscope. This is why the media is pretending there is nothing to see. If this had a connection to Trump, instead of Obama and Hillary, the media would be demanding an investigation. I would think that Bernie supporters would be all over this since, Seth was one of them. Seth Rich was not a Trumpster, yet only the Trump supporters seek justice for him. The Democrats are the lynch mob who does not care who they hurt. The swamp is being induced to show its true colors.
     
  20. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    Well actually as with most of your assertions, that simply isn't true either. The FBI has been investigating Trump's Russian connections since July which of course was months before the election. And contrary to your assertions, there is plenty of evidence. To begin, we know of at least 2 of Trump's closest advisers were illegal and unregistered foreign agents. Both had taken money from directly and indirectly from Russian sources. We know many of Trump's closest advisers held secret meetings with Russian intelligence officers. We know that those advisers lied about those meetings and what was discussed in those meetings. That's hard evidence comrade. We do know Trump has had some inexplicable business relationships with Russia, e.g. purchasing grossly overpriced homes from Trump. That's red flag for money laundering. We also know one of Trump's close associates worked for a bank associated with Russian money laundering. And that's just what is publicly known. There is much which isn't publicly known, and there is much yet to be discovered. That's why we have investigations. That's why we have investigators.

    You right wing nuts have been accusing Democrats of serial murder and other outlandish crimes for almost 3 decades now with out a shred of proof. You folks have spent tens of millions if not hundreds of millions and nearly 3 decades investigating your accusations with congressional investigations and special prosecutors and found not an iota of evidence to validate your assertions. And as a result you have destroyed your credibility with anyone who isn't a rabid right wing nut. You have no evidence of any of the conspiracies you folks promulgate. While making shit up works for the rabid right wing base, it doesn't work for anyone with a semi-functional brain, and thank God for that!

    The fact is you have no evidence of a murder conspiracy here just as you had no evidence when you folks accused the Clintons of serial murder years ago. Unfortunately for the American right wing, but fortunately for the rest of us, truth and reason still matter.
     
  21. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    And your evidence is where? Who asked the FBI to stand down and when did they do it? Oops! No one asked anyone to stand down. First, this isn't a case the FBI would handle or be expected to handle. Local police have jurisdiction, not the FBI. Oops!

    You and those of your ilk want this to put the DNC under the microscope as if it weren't already under the microscope. The DNC is always under the microscope as it should be. Unfortunately for you and those of your ilk, but fortunately for the rest of us, we still live in an open and free society.

    This allegation is just another in a long series of right wing red herrings intended to distract attention from Trump's Russian connections and the role Russia played in subverting our elections. But that ain't gonna happen comrade. In no small part, because Trump will not let it happen. Trump loves being in the spot light. Trump cannot share the spotlight with anything or anyone, much less his own trumped up conspiracy. Trump is like a moth drawn to a flame. His narcissistic personality disorder will not allow it.
     
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  22. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, Wikileaks is and has been from the beginning of Trump's campaign part of the "Russian narrative". Where have you been?

    US military officers have been known to have been killing civilians of all kinds in Iraq since before the internet was invented, and in this current bout - with photos and stuff - since 2003.
     
  23. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

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    It seems to me, at least historically speaking, rather quite unfair to expect self-righteous, right-wing wannabe pedants to actually be informed.

    Remember: Expectations of accuracy or having a clue are unfair chills against free speech. (I cannot recall its numerical designation in the conservative catechism. Like most of their "rules", just give it a number. As a result, everything is either Rule One, Rule Thirty-Four, or Rule Sixty-Nine.)
     

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