i think there is a bit more to then being christian or just leading a good life. I think it is more the abillity to join both of these together. Being christian and leading a good life. After all why would you be worried about not going to heaven if you didnt believe in it in the first place.
That is a nice thought, but if He would forgive us all, then why would He ever punish anyone? Isn't that just too easy? That leaves so much room for evil then. That is why I can't bring myself to ask for forgiveness, I don't think I am deserving.
Qiothus II I don't think that God is forced to punish us. Forgivness is a pretty cool idea. If we had to earn our way into heaven I know for sure that I would be screwed. One nice side effect of believing that God forgives me is that I can forgive myself.
i'm going to heaven, even though I am an atheist and a sinner. I'm a catholic, been baptized, did my communion thingie...i'm basically set for heaven. good that I wasn't born a protestant...would have gone straight to hell.
And how many heavens are there, anyway? There's a third one mentioned somewhere in the Bible. :bugeye:
Centuries later? All of Paul's letters were written within 30 years of Jesus' death, for he was executed less than 35 years after Jesus was. I have no idea, where the idea of Centuries came in. The whole New Testament was written, less than 70 years after Jesus death. John wrote the Revelation in the late 90s, and that was the last letter written in the New Testament.
The Judeo/Christians believe that there are 3 heavens. The first being all that one can see on earth, during the daylight hours. Yes Earth is the first heaven. The second heaven, is all that one can see on a cloudless, moon-less night. The third heaven, is the place of the righteous dead, the place where God visibly dwells.
And on what biblical scripture, are you basing this hope on? Or have you just been lulled in to a false sense of security?
The Judeo/Christians believe that there are 3 heavens. The first being all that one can see on earth, during the daylight hours. Yes Earth is the first heaven. The second heaven, is all that one can see on a cloudless, moon-less night. The third heaven, is the place of the righteous dead, the place where God visibly dwells.
it doesn't really matter...it is not like god exists. Hence you might be lulled in a false sence of security. and these things are not written in biblical scriptures. If the catholic church decides it is so then it is so.
So then when Jesus said, "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned." Mark 16:16 And, "Truly, truly I say unto you, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God." John 3:3 He had no idea what he was saying in either case, huh?
is the xtian heaven and muslim heaven separate? id like to go to the one where virgins are promised Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! who needs cable after that.. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
