Who claimed to have personally met a historical Jesus ?

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  1. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    False and inane.

    How would you have "written evidence" for a physical process?
    (And wouldn't you dismiss written evidence as "words on a page"?)

    Still having trouble reading English?
    I haven't, anywhere, claimed that you have said that.
    Please try to stay with reality.
     
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  3. Ellie Banned Banned

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    Yeah, i know..."la la la la la"

    If no one wrote about it or we cannot find anything written does not mean it did not happen.


    Depends on what it is.
     
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  5. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    So now you're arguing against yourself?
    One more time:
    So why have you dismissed the links given as "words on a page"?

    You're not very consistent are you? (Or smart).
     
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  7. Ellie Banned Banned

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    Evidence for a physical process comes in may forms.

    Did I "dismiss" them? You are adding that.

    More ad hominem.
     
  8. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    How does the physical process write about itself?

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    False.
    "Words on page"?[sup](1)[/sup] coupled with "LOL...you call that evidence?" IS a dismissal.

    Nope, more observation based on your responses.

    (1) And I note that you've also been somewhat dishonest and edited that comment out of your post, which, coupled with your strawman claims, makes you appear to be trolling.
     
  9. NietzscheHimself Banned Banned

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    I met Jesus. He mowed my grass and trimmed the hedges.
     
  10. Ellie Banned Banned

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    I am not saying that you cannot accept that as evidence.

    I also said those examples were written thousands, millions or maybe trillions of years after the "fact". I already stated what everyone accepts as evidence so no need to go into that again. Of course here we could not have human witnesses.

    How is it dishonest to use the edit function? Was that deletion profound?
     
  11. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Nothing sensible, apparently. YOU are the one that asked for written "evidence".

    Really? Then why use the words "you call that evidence?" which implies that you consider it not to be?

    Again, what do you mean "after the fact"? Evolution is in ongoing process. It's still happening.

    Why delete it at all?
     
  12. Arioch Valued Senior Member

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    @Ellie --

    Using the edit function to fix a typo or add updates to an OP is fine. Using the edit function to remove a part of your post that was criticized is dishonest as it is attempting to both hide your mistakes(very bad form in science) and use the opportunity to call your opponent a liar(which is, in and of itself, an ad hominem), as you already did.

    How can you categorize that behavior as honest?
     
  13. Kapyong Writer Registered Senior Member

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    Gday,

    Sadly, you are ignorant of the meaning of the word 'theory' in a scientific context. It's clear you have fallen for the typical error of thinking it means 'speculation', when it really means an EXPLANATION for the facts.

    A scientific theory = a detailed EXPLANATION of the facts.
    It does NOT mean 'speculation'.

    Anyway -
    Every post about the historicity of Jesus ALWAYS attracts comments about evolution - why is that ?


    Kapyong
     
  14. Kapyong Writer Registered Senior Member

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    Evolution is a fact of nature.
    The Theory of Evolution is the EXPLANATION for those facts.

    Like the Theory of Gravity is the EXPLANATION for the facts of gravity.
    Funny how you don't insist gravity is just a THEORY - why is that ?


    Your are stuck on a silly mis-understanding of a word.
    It's always WORD-GAMES with you people.



    K.
     
  15. Arioch Valued Senior Member

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    Because evolution single handedly invalidates a lot of their favorite bible passages. The bits about Adam and Eve, one family being able to repopulate the world, one man being able to fit at least two of every species(seven of the "clean" ones) on one boat, they all fall thanks to evolution.
     
  16. Ellie Banned Banned

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    I did not ask for written evidence explicitly and never said that was the only kind of evidence.

    I already answered that.

    It may be.

    Because sometimes it is evidence.
     
  17. Ellie Banned Banned

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    It wasnt criticized when i deleted it. I deleted it a few seconds after i posted. Dont be a cry baby.
     
  18. Arioch Valued Senior Member

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    Who's being a crybaby? I merely answered your question.
     
  19. Ellie Banned Banned

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    Intellectual dishonesty. We can prove gravity.

    Then you are using a written theory as proof.
     
  20. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    No?
    http://www.sciforums.com/showpost.php?p=2833865&postcount=40

    Strawman. I never said you had.

    Wrong. You skirted it.

    Also wrong. It is.

    Yet you were given the links that lead to written evidence (which you then dismissed). Make your mind up.
     
  21. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    On your part.

    Just as we have proven evolution.

    Arrant nonsense.
     
  22. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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  23. Ellie Banned Banned

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    That last post(s) is not worth commenting on. Sorry.
     

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