Where will humanity be in 10,000 years?

Discussion in 'Human Science' started by Diode-Man, Oct 31, 2011.

  1. CEngelbrecht Registered Senior Member

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    The observation that young human males instinctively looking for furthering their genes to the next generation (ie. mating) has a strong tendency to venture out to kill other males in order to minimize the competition for the fertile females in the pursuit of procreation (which has strong analogies in similar chimp behavior, hence the term 'demonic males' coined by Wrangham and Peterson). Chances are, that this behavioral trait in humans, however much upheaval and destruction it inevitably entails, will definitely be the dominant factor in human existence for the millenia to come. 'Cause it has been all through the millenia prior to them, and most definitely the present, would you not agree? Altruists and peace efforts in human ideas already go back for as many millenia as we can reconstruct human history, and yet, none of them seem to have any lasting effect on the path of humanity, 'cause we still suffer them damn wars. Whatever technological leaps we make, we use them for war first, and for that boring demasculating peace more or less as an after thought. Therefore war and destruction will dominate our future before anything else by all probality, just as it does now, because of the inherent violence in our mating behavior.

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  3. river Valued Senior Member

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    Yet there is very little of this " killing " or is your perspective from a psychopathic perspective?
     
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  5. CEngelbrecht Registered Senior Member

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    Are you seriously arguing, that the ammount of killing is "very little?" Have you ever actually opened a history book?

     
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  7. river Valued Senior Member

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    And most of the killing is religion based.
     
  8. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Nah. The increasingly dominant human factor is cooperative males. The demonic guys are kind of on their way out - throwbacks, sitting in jails and graveyards mostly. Occasionally one will get some traction and status, and then if he's in Africa he might have some success - but anywhere else a 70 kilo nerd in a polo shirt with a pocket protector will drop a drone on his belligerent ass.

    You want to father a lot of kids with a bunch of different women in this modern world? Get good at a team sport, join a band of musicians, learn how to cry and express complex feelings to strangers on camera.
     
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    That's short handed too. Religion is just the most widely used excuse for doing, what people would've done anyway. Political ideology or some random philosopher are also popular excuses. Hell, if people have no other excuse for turning to blood, they use a bloody football match! (Soccer, to some of y'all.)

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    A guy like that shouldn't be able to get a mate, now should he? And yet they always do. Simply because they dominate the other males. And that's why kids will always pick up that damn gun. To get to the honnies.

    Adolf is a perfect example. He came home from The Great War, his soccer team had lost the game, the girls didn't want anything to do with him, that pittiful loser. As soon as he flipped and started screaming hate and madness in that bar, babbling nonsense about Darwin and Nietzsche (which didn't make any damn sense going through the comma sentences, but it doesn't have to), blaming his personal problems on a segment of society that was easy to blame, because they were wonderfully few in numbers, as soon as that gave him dominance over the masses in broken Deutschland, up popped 19 year old Eva Braun looking for trophee semen for her egg. We all know the rest of the story. Those are the individuals, that will dominate human future. 'Cause they have certainly dominated human past as well as present.

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    All war is about sex, didn't you know? On a Freudian level, that's all it has ever been. 'Cause the only ethological demand fertile women have is the male dominating the other males. So human males has to kill each over the right to mate. All in the name of procreation, which is the only thing that matters, 'cause our subconscious knows the afterlife doesn't exist.
     
  10. CEngelbrecht Registered Senior Member

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    Uhuh, sure. "It's a regional thing, it can't happen my backyard."

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  11. river Valued Senior Member

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    How true
     
  12. river Valued Senior Member

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    Pathetic post really.
     
  13. CEngelbrecht Registered Senior Member

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    If you guys aren't gonna accept data and observations from the real world, we can't have this discussion.
     
  14. CEngelbrecht Registered Senior Member

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    Would you not agree, that this man's actions was the one defining factor of the entire past century? And what factors created him?

     
  15. river Valued Senior Member

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    The people

    Desperate people.
     
  16. CEngelbrecht Registered Senior Member

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    And in some magical fashion, those chaps are not gonna be present in the human future?

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    You ask how the human future will be. In all probability, it will be defined by chaps like these. 'Cause that's the boys getting laid in the madness of human mating behavior, and it's not all rape. These are the types that will win the right to mate today and tomorrow, these are the types half of our genes descend from.

    Don't get me wrong. I would love to be wrong in this, but there are no significant observations to support the likelihood of a peaceful human future. 'Cause there never was a peaceful human past or present, and the biological factors in all likelihood will be exactly the same. Hell, if there are significant peace makers on the world stage trying to make a difference, most of them get murdered, don't they? While the war mongers live forever.

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  17. river Valued Senior Member

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    I understand

    The thing is , is that , these people are a extremely small % of Humanity. Fear is winning.
     
  18. CEngelbrecht Registered Senior Member

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    No, these males are everywhere, ape. They are the corrupt parlamentarians, the gruesome dictators and warlords, the tycoon thieves, the psychotic mass murderers, the drug lords, the dealers of conflict diamonds and illegal arms to children soldiers. All the males that destroy and corrupt in the mechanism of human entropy. They are the males that will receive the most fertile females humanity has to offer. They are the males that win the biological competition. That's why we will by all probability remain the violent ape for all foreseeable future. Why would human males seize this behavior? Being the opposite type of male doesn't attract the females, when they're the most fertile, not by a long shot.
     
  19. river Valued Senior Member

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    Your assuming that females don't have a mind of there own.
     
  20. CEngelbrecht Registered Senior Member

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    Only about as much as males don't. All these people shaming themselves all over CNN, where do they come from, if we have absolute free will?
     
  21. river Valued Senior Member

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    Ego. Fame. Money.

    Perhaps a form of insanity.

    Perhaps Humanity has to go through this stage to get back to sanity.or to recognize sanity. IF so , hope it doesn't take long.

    And electronics and robotics.
     
  22. CEngelbrecht Registered Senior Member

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    Ego, fame and money. Exactly the factors that attract the females, 'cause they spell status. Men want virgin females, women want males with status in the pack. If females gather exactly the same things mentioned, they don't really attract the alpha males to the same degree, do they? Rather, they intimidate them.

    You demand too much of physical reality. These Darwinian factors created us across the eons, therefore we will always be slaves to them. It's arrogant and foolish to think we can somehow bypass them. Don't ge me wrong, I want Star Trek, too. But we're not the Roddenberrian ape.
     
  23. river Valued Senior Member

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    Geez guy your attitude towards females is rather , negative.

    I don't want star trek philosophy. To be clear.
     

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