What's the other 90+% made of?

Discussion in 'Astronomy, Exobiology, & Cosmology' started by Cassius Malachi, Dec 28, 2015.

  1. Cassius Malachi Registered Member

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    As I'm sure you all know, most of the Universe is missing. All the stuff out there that we can see and that makes up us and the stuff around us, accounts for only a tiny fraction of all the matter in the universe. So, my question is....what do you guys think all the stuff we can't see or observe in any way, is made of?
     
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  3. mathman Valued Senior Member

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    Dark matter ~ 25%, Dark energy ~ 70%.
     
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  5. river Valued Senior Member

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    Plasmic energy
     
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  7. Daecon Kiwi fruit Valued Senior Member

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    What?
     
  8. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    river believes in a long dead defunct "Electric Universe" hypothesis, sometimes called "Plasma hypothesis"

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    He is yet, unable to accept the logical and evidenced process of gravity having shaped the Universe we inhabit and which evolved from the BB.
     
  9. river Valued Senior Member

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    The Plasma Universe has nothing to do with the electric universe. You should no this by now pad. You have tried to equate both as the same many times and each time I have told you the same thing. Stop it.

    The Plasma Universe and Plasma
    Cosmology have no ties to the anti-
    science blogsites of the holoscience
    'electric universe'.
     
  10. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Stop what? Stop letting you in on truth and reality? Sorry, that's not going to happen.
    The electric/Plasma universe are one and the same hypothetical.

    http://www.electricuniverse.info/Introduction
    Space plasmas
    Although outer space is a vacuum, it is permeated with the plasma of the Solar "Wind". This interacts with Sun's magnetic field, producing the heliospheric current sheet which carries about 3×109amperes through our own Solar System. The galactic counterpart is estimated to carry of 1017 - 1019Amps. The heliospheric current sheet is the largest coherent structure in our Solar System.



    electrical scarring rather than impacts with meteorites. It is also suggested that the Sun and stars are powered externally electrically (see the Electric Sun theory), and the behavior of comets is due to their interaction with electrified interplanetary plasma
     
  11. river Valued Senior Member

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  12. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    http://www.plasmacosmology.net/electric.html

    Electric Universe is a variant of Plasma Cosmology, and it is necessary to differentiate between the two. While they share more similarities than differences, it should be noted that EU ideas tend to go a step further than the generally more conservative approach of Plasma Cosmology.

    While both viewpoints permit many ideas previously excluded by Big Bang Cosmology, The Electric Universe looks at the bigger picture, and promotes more radical ideas about the role of electricity in the universe, from ancient mythology to the mind-body connection.

    Both PC and EU proponents acknowledge the fact that space is NOT electrically neutral
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    In other words, just as I have claimed....a long defunct ridiculous hypothesis, with both addressed in Eric J Lerner's infamous book, The Big Bang Never Happened" and which I had expertly critiqued by two experts, one a GR theorists, the other a professional astronomer.
     
  13. river Valued Senior Member

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    The DM component is probably in part WIMP's, or weakly interactive massive particles and MACHO, Massive astronomically compact halo objects......
    DE as yet we do not have much of an idea, other than possibly the Cosmological Constant of Einstein fame.
     
  15. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    To reiterate even further, the Electric/Plasma Universe hypothesis is long dead and defunct.
    That sums it and you up quite admirably.
     
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  17. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Just because humans have as yet to make science instruments that can detect what the universe is made up of other than matter itself only pushes scientists to find ways to discover what and how the remaining unseen universe is made up of by trying to make instruments that detect the unknown. In time they will know exactly what the unknown factors are and be able to unravel this mystery.
     
  18. river Valued Senior Member

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    True.

    And in the mean time there are sites that are willing to tell everybody their advanced findings if your ready to learn what they are; I am is anybody else here?
     
  19. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Stop trolling river: Plasma/Universe hypothetical is dead and buried, despite you resurrecting it when you chose.
     
  20. river Valued Senior Member

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    Stop trolling nonsense about the Plasma Universe pad.
     
  21. Cassius Malachi Registered Member

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    Unfortunately, from a ridiculous number of examples, science isn't true science anymore. In science you follow the facts and adjust your theory accordingly. Today it seems that the majority of the "scientific" community look for the facts that fit their theories.
     
  22. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Sure there are! There are plenty of sites on the net promoting YEC nonsense and a Universe 6,000 years old...there are other sites that promote ghosts and goblins in every corner of the world...there are sites that promote that we have been visited by aliens and others that describe bizarre medical experiments that they conduct on poor unfortunate beings....and we also have others promoting still your Plasma/Electric universe nonsense...Others promote pixies and fairies and giants...There all there river for those gullible enough to want to accept such nonsense.
    My suggestion to you is read up on the scientific methodology and proper peer review......By no means perfect, but certainly better than the pseudoscience you are on record as promoting.
     
  23. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    • Please do not insult other members.
    Not really as far as the scientific community in general is concerned, but certainly with gullible hopefuls and cranks like river, the god, chinglu, constant theorist, Farsight.
    Science certainly must also consider educated speculation...From such speculation, hypotheticals are built...from hypotheticals, scientific theories emerge after running the gauntlet of peer review.
     

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