what really matters today (guns)

Discussion in 'About the Members' started by sculptor, Nov 25, 2019.

  1. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    what really matters today
    https://www.chuckhawks.com/recoil_table.htm

    the 300 win mag was beating up my shoulder
    and, I was beginning to flinch(at exactly the wrong time)
    so i got a 308----still did the job last year
    and had a muzzle break, and better pad installed on the 300
    and now, they kick about the same

    re-zeroed the 300 this afternoon to 1/2 moa
    I await the walking venison

    My choices keep expanding---slug gun, black powder 50, 300 and 308

    Maybe it's because I've gotten used to the 300 over 15 years---I feel more comfortable with it---especially now that it is more polite---(excepting the noise)

    I keep trying to get my son to take the shot(s)
    Last year he did so with the 308---hit one and dropped it where it stood, and missed one---considering that he did not grow up shooting like i did, maybe he has a bit of a learning curve to work through? Which may be more of a challenge by starting as an adult?
     
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  3. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    muscle (& bone)density
    tendon density strength & flexibility ...
    cortisone production(natural states of day to day inflammation etc)
    etc etc...
    add to that never ending growth to cartilage...
    oh yeah... eye hydration & mineral processing of the body.
    when the eyes have to work harder(like working with several monitors quickly for hours on end)
    the brain and body get fatigued in critical trace elements
    lacking in these creates over all body fatigue so then engaging in normal physical actions you will be potentialy heavily impacted.
    the slower reaction time and impulses being registered by your brain will confuse your muscle memory response time
    this compounding effect will disrupt your ability to exert precise actions and mental focus.

    repeat test at different times of the day on a normal food & hydration routine.

    you should find tiny differences.
    then play with those
     
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  5. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    tested the zero of the 308
    2 m0i (me or the optics?)
    I'll retest tomorrow morning
    see if over all body fatigue...etc...
    impacts target acquisition ?
     
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  7. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    ...
     
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  8. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    ok
    The 308 is down to 1/2 moa
    so much for that
    nice to know that if my aim is true
    the bullet will find it's intended destination
    however
    I ain't seen a deer in the yard this season
    (gee darn)
     
  9. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    maybe accidentally drop a pound of molasses on a plastic plate covered by a steel mesh securely pinned to the ground

    bears might come looking if you have bears
    everything else probably will but as long as its racoon proof

    not sure 50 kilos of prime venison is worth having 2 bears fighting for a few hours on your back lawn lol
     
  10. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    SWEDISH STYLE BEAR STEAK
    PRIMEVAL PURSUITS > HUNTING > SWEDISH STYLE BEAR STEAK

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    Hunting Recipe
    This past season I spent a lot of time hunting bears. I had several encounters and even a shot opportunity. I am new to archery and flubbed it. Thankfully a good friend harvested a bear and gifted us some meat!

    Among the assortment of cuts we were given were two steaks. Bear taste and texture can vary widely from bear to bear. Environmental conditions, diet and field care after the shot can also affect texture and flavor. I wanted to be sure these steaks were excellent, but without losing the meat in the dish. My idea was Swedish style steak.

    My mom used to cook Swedish Steak, and I remember it fondly. Adapting that dish to bear seemed a natural compliment. And it was. The meat was flavorful and went well with the tomato based gravy. It was also incredibly tender. I can’t wait to make this again!

    We used an instant pot for this recipe, but you can also use a slow cooker. I recommend 4-5 hours cook time in the slow cooker, otherwise the process is pretty much the same!
    We added some green beans to the pot as well. You can too!

    • Prep Time15 min
    • Cook Time1 hr
    • Total Time1 hr 15 min
    • COOKING METHOD
      • Searing
      • Braising
      • Instant Pot
      • Slow Cooking
    Ingredients
    • 2 lbs bear steaks
    • 2 tsp garlic powder
    • 1 tsp sea salt
    • 1 tsp ground black pepper
    • 1 tsp meat tenderizer
    • 2 Tbsp corn starch
    • 2 Tbsp olive oil
    • 1 medium white or yellow onion
    • 1 cup low sodium broth (beef, bear, venison, etc)
    • 3/4 crushed tomatoes
    • small bunch fresh sage (whole)
    • small bunch fresh thyme (whole)
    .................................
    recoil be damned, if shooting a bear, I'd go with a heavier bullet--- minimum 180
     
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  11. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Is shooting bears legal where you live?
     
  12. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    What does this have to with the members?

    Move to Free Thoughts?
     
  13. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    I do not know.
    I doubt that there is a wild bear within 100 miles of where I live---maybe 200?
    I had a cousin who lived about 300-350 miles north east by wausau wisconsin who used to hunt bears---I do not know if he ate them, and he's dead now so I can't ask him.

    The varied weapons are a result of the different weapon hunting seasons for deer
    bow, shotgun, muzzle loader---etc...
    Every tool you own owns you in return---I would just as soon not own any of them, but I do think that venison is a much healthier red meat than anything available at the market. I also have chickens so I can monitor their health, partially free range tham, and feel safe eating eggs again.
    All is a bother, but perhaps worth it?
     
  14. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    It's mostly about sculptor's personal love for guns and shooting, as far as I can tell. So, it's about him.
     
  15. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    fyi: I am not the only shooter in here
    on the average year I will shoot 3 times for 3 deer
    and 2 -3 times to test the accuracy of the weapon
    ---Not exactly a love affair
    I spend much more time with many other tools
    I do not love the saws nor drills nor screw shooters nor sanders nor grinders nor knives nor chisels...
    they are just tools, when well maintained they do what is expected of them
     
  16. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    I'm well aware of that. The shooters often want to make their presence felt. In the US, it's also often a way of signalling one's political leanings.

    Whatever you say.
     
  17. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    So a sort of blog, you mean? I see.
     
  18. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    i love seeing those muzzle loader guns & canons in the reenactments, old working inventions, big cloud of smoke etc ...
    don't think i would ever want to get to close to one though
    they look very dangerous
    and the idea of eating bear repulses me.

    venison i have had and like A LOT !
    but i am vegetarian ... mostly

    i am very pro the idea of society moving away from red meat to lower carbon emissions & all the machinery & transport & freezer resources and fossil fuel it uses.
     
  19. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    otoh
    Wildlife is a renewable natural resource with a surplus and hunters harvest that surplus.
    We have removed the animals that prey on deer, and now that is our job.
    If we did not do it, their population would spike and they would eat too much.
    That being "said"
    Perhaps too much harvesting of the deer is also a problem.
    I ain't seen on in the back yard this year.
    Meanwhile, Iowa City is hiring out of state shooters to cull the deer herd from the city parks
    (which really upsets some of the local hunters who would gladly perform that task for free)
    .............................
    ps
    I do not hunt, I shoot.
     
  20. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    It isn't just "too much". Messing up the natural way also interferes with the lives of scavengers, etc.
     
  21. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    I shoot 15-20 coyote every year.
     
  22. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    toxic subject
    aligned to toxic people
     
  23. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    Bear tastes like hamburger and smells like wet dog.
     

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