What qualifies as science?

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  1. Michael 345 Valued Senior Member

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    Reference please

    Same goes for the rest of the post

    I'd put in Monty Python Dead Parrot sketch but I think its been done to death

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  3. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Atoms do not store more information than they need to be an atom.

    However, everything in the universe is subject to wave lengths., be they supersonic or subsonic.
    The wave function is pervasive throughout the universe and all things respond to wavelengths.

    Why is it problematic to assert that thoughts are also influenced by certain wavelengths?
     
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  5. Nahor87 Registered Member

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    https://techcrunch.com/2017/03/08/storing-data-in-a-single-atom-proved-possible-by-ibm-researchers/

    Ok, we'll maybe earths been hit by a few space rocks. We grow from what we consume, mentally and physically.

    "ALL PROOF indicates that consciousness dies with the body"
    There is no proof, zilch zero none.

    But here is some research..
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/212...ans-have-souls-which-can-live-on-after-death/

    The mind is a mystery, scientists don't always get paid to come up with the RIGHT answer.
    You only have to look back within 100 years how wonderful cocaine and tobacco was for your body and nowadays, we all know better. Not really. Some of the things that get the scientific nod these days are horrendous. No1 - sugar. No2 - the medications that are prescribed to the kids with the disease cause by the sugar. The problem of course gets diluted by putting crack on the streets.

    Does anyone here watch the ted talks? The mind is beyond science. smart phones, Alcohol, sugar and caffeine are the main disrupters of mind. Sugar is number one. Kids should be taught how to meditate and drink nothing but water.

    There is no profit in fixing our selves
     
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  7. Nahor87 Registered Member

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    "The more we know, the more we don't know"

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    Top 10 monty python sketch hahaha
     
  9. origin Trump is the best argument against a democracy. Valued Senior Member

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    Nahor87 wrote:
    When called on this silly claim as expected he responded with:
    Yes a single atom can be coaxed into acting like a transistor. That is clearly not the same as your claim.

    That is not research and that is not proof or even evidence. It is a feel good fluff article.
     
  10. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    You might as well say that every grain of sand has the potential for the Empire State Building. Meaningless.
     
  11. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    If there is information inside single atoms, what is it "written" in? What is the ink?
     
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  12. Nahor87 Registered Member

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    The entire universe may have be made from a single atom. Let me guess, insignificant? There is nothing insignificant about our thoughts. Knowledge is limited, imagination is forever. Writing on this forum is a miracle.
     
  13. Nahor87 Registered Member

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    You'd have to ask the programmer. There is information in atoms, its not just potential, where did the elements come from before they existed?
     
  14. Nahor87 Registered Member

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    There is no proof. For or against.
    Discovery channel have done full docos on the subject, it's not all feel good fluff.
     
  15. Nahor87 Registered Member

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    It's only 2017 kids, we've barely just created the lightbulb in a time stance. Look at what we've done in the last 100 years, were speeding up, 2100 is going to be inconceivable let alone 2500.
     
  16. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    p.s. Nitrogen Narcosis does the same thing. A common problem in SCUBA divers.
    That is because our brains hallucinate all the time.
    Anil Seth (linked earlier) explains this very persuasively. Our brains make "best guesses", which means there is no independent "soul" which has the experience, it is the brain of each individual which does the experiencing. Each "mind/soul" is a construct of the individual's brain.
    No longer working = dead = no mind/soul, no awareness.

    As Seth concludes his presentation. "When consciousness stops, there is nothing to be afraid of".
    There is no "after-life" to fear or look forward to.

    A perfect example (which I also had the good fortune to watch) of the brain "discovering" the functions of our bodies. In this case the software of intentional mind-hand control. A controlled hallucination.
     
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  17. Nahor87 Registered Member

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    Hahaha yes I just watched a movie last night with examples of nitrogen narcosis, scary stuff, better to die laughing I guess. I've heard about how we see time slightly after it happens, when time appears to slow down when we are injected with adrenalin, our perceptions are just moving closer to real time?
    Thanks all for your opinions and your time to write them. I'm still not totally convinced that dead is dust because of my own personal experiences but have definitely become more pessimistic on the subject. I'm more here to learn than to try push a point I know little about.
     
  18. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    It is difficult to separate physical science with psychology of mind. Physics work in strict accordance with the mathematics of inherent potentials, whereas the mind can hallucinate (imagine) things at a much broader limit.
    A little example: a rock sheds atoms, but this happens unnoticed and the life of a rock can only be described by the term half-life.
    But if you take LSD, the brain might experience the rock as a fluid dripping object, changing color and shape as you watch it. An uncontrolled hallucination.

    And this amazing flexibility of the mind also can create Tulpas (as I mentioned earlier).
    Many religions employ Tulpas to remind people of a specific person, who's deeds were noteworthy and their moral legacy is adopted by the mind as a living spirit, but in reality it is just an imaginary mindset.

    Expressions such as "God will watch over me" or "he is possessed by the Devil" are examples of such Tulpas.
    But there is no physical evidence, other than mental imagination (hallucination), that such beings exist independent of mental imagination.
     
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  19. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    This is balderdash. Once again you abuse the term function. You still have zero idea what you are talking about. That guy Shapiro seems to have messed with your mind. What wave function is pervasive, please? Actually, don't answer, I don't think I can bothered any more.
     
  20. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Bohm's Pilot Wave,
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilot_wave#Principles
     
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  21. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    Insignificant nonsense.

    So I asked you, how is the information written on the atom? What is the ink?
     
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  22. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    That is not a "pervasive wave function". That is a non-standard (and so far not successful) theory of QM, incorporating the concept of a pilot wave for each QM entity.
     
  23. NotEinstein Registered Senior Member

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    (Just a quick comment: wavelengths are mathematical representations of a physical property. Maths don't influence thoughts in any physical way. I think you mean just "waves" or "wave functions"?)
     

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