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  1. tresbien Banned Banned

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    As a Muslim i worship ALLAH or God.he has beautiful names and attributes.he has no son or a partner. When he says a matter be and it is.

    There is nothing like unto Him, and He is the All-Hearer, All-Seer.” [al-Shoora 42:11].


    Muslim believes that islam is the only true religion .THE EVIDENCE COMES FROM quran in which Allah says :whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers”

    Allaah, may He be exalted, created mankind to worship Him and to know Him by His names and attributes,


    As for u question why we worship ALLAH after we know him
    The Muslim must hasten to make the best of every moment of his life and hasten to do good deeds and acts of worship; he should ignore the hardship and enjoy the pain, for that which is with Allaah is precious, for that which is with Allaah is Paradise and also seeking his pleasure in this life too.
     
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  3. SnakeLord snakeystew.com Valued Senior Member

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    It would depend entirely upon which god it was. The OT god is a little bit of an ass, the christian god is a little bit of a pansy, but Thor's pretty cool.
     
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  5. tresbien Banned Banned

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    Say: "Call upon Allah, or call upon Rahman: by whatever name ye call upon Him, (it is well): for to Him belong the Most Beautiful Names. ]17:110

    He is Allah, the Creator, the Evolver, the Bestower of Forms (or Colours). To Him belong the Most Beautiful Names: whatever is in the heavens and on earth, doth declare His Praises and Glory; and He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise.]59:22-24
     
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  7. Myles Registered Senior Member

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    There is disease and sickness on earth. Natural disasters such as tsunamis. earthquakes, floods, destructive hurricanes, and o on. Do these proclaim Allah's glory ?
     
  8. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    You need not go further with a circular argument. Scriptures do not support scriptures as evidence.
     
  9. tresbien Banned Banned

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    Have glad tidings, for Allaah will cause the sins of a Muslim to be wiped out due to sickness just as fire removes the impurities from iron and silver.” He sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam also said: “The believing man or woman will continue to be afflicted by hardships in themselves and their families until they meet Allaah with absolutely no sins.”

    The Prophet sallallaahu ‘alaihi wa sallam said: “No Muslim is afflicted with harm such as disease or anything else except that Allaah will cause his sins to be removed, as a tree sheds its leaves, as a consequence.”

    Almighty Allaah says that which translates as: “And whatever strikes you of disaster – it is for what your hands have earned; but He pardons much.” (Ash-Shuraa: 30).
     
  10. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Preaching is not allowed, tresbien.
     
  11. tresbien Banned Banned

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    i am answering his question according to my belief
     
  12. tresbien Banned Banned

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    Throughout people's lives, from childhood until the time they die, signs of the one and only true God are shown to them in all regions of the earth and in their own souls, until it becomes clear that there is only one true God (Allah). God says in the Qur'an:

    "We will show them our signs in the furthest regions (of the earth) and in their souls, until it becomes clear to them that this is the truth." (Qur'an 41:53)
     
  13. KennyJC Registered Senior Member

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    Sure.

    Beats watching TV.
     
  14. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    ... are the result and propagators of cult indoctrination.
     
  15. tresbien Banned Banned

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  16. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    yes i do see what you're saying. but i blame god for everything ultimately. i still don't really know what to think about free will. i was just talking about it last night with my brother. see, i think that god is responsible for everything because he IS everything, good and evil, and that good and evil are used for good ultimately, and that has to do with law. here's what i was saying to my brother last night. if god is everything, then we are all part of god. so what if our free will really just equates to our identity, and our role in greater good?
     
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  18. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    you are equating god with organized religious institutions.
     
  19. tresbien Banned Banned

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    yes i do see what you're saying. but i blame god for everything ultimately. i still don't really know what to think about free will. i was just talking about it last night with my brother. see, i think that god is responsible for everything because he IS everything, good and evil, and that good and evil are used for good ultimately, and that has to do with law. here's what i was saying to my brother last night. if god is everything, then we are all part of god. so what if our free will really just equates to our identity, and our role in greater good?

    u question is in the following
    http://www.readingislam.com/servlet...sh-AAbout_Islam/AskAboutIslamE/AskAboutIslamE
     
  20. PsychoticEpisode It is very dry in here today Valued Senior Member

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    And watch children die of starvation? Does that decree go for nation's that already have food shortages? Howcome God doesn't amend that command?

    Are you sinning if you go forth and multiply in a place where children starve to death or are you sinning if you don't go forth and multiply regardless?
     
  21. Myles Registered Senior Member

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    I don't understand your answer. Is or is not Allah responsible for natural disasters ?
     
  22. Lori_7 Go to church? I am the church! Registered Senior Member

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    why do people starve in this world of plenty? due to the consequence of our greed. all of our greed. why would you think that theists are not greedy? you speak like a true bigot. mankind IS cruel and immoral for the most part, and that is why that for the most part, WE ARE IN HELL. and if you think for one second that you don't contribute to that just as much if not more than someone else, then you're not being very objective. we're all in this together mr. supremecy. the way you talk about theists reminds me of the way hitler talked about jews, or the way white supremecists talk about any non-whites.
     
  23. Myles Registered Senior Member

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    If you attribute both the good and the bad to god, I have no argument with you. Have you read Spinoza ? I get the impression that your views are very close to his. He did not believe in a personal god; he believed god was in everything. Does that fit your view ?
     

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