What do you believe?

Discussion in 'Religion Archives' started by falcon22, Oct 14, 2006.

  1. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    actually the sequencing is all hearsay - you may have something to add but from what I understand after 150 years of trying to cram empirical findings into darwinism to elevate it from the status of a theory there has been no progress
     
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  3. Cris In search of Immortality Valued Senior Member

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    I think you are still confusing the fact that it has occurred with the mechanisms (the theories).
     
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  5. draqon Banned Banned

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    I believe in dreams
     
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  7. Oniw17 ascetic, sage, diogenes, bum? Valued Senior Member

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    Wouldn't it be crazy if we all discovered that the universe was kept in order by trillions of gods?
     
  8. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    not clear on the distinctions or similarities you are making between the words mechanisms and theories - as it stands I don't think they are interchangable
     
  9. draqon Banned Banned

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    not really...cause we are those Gods.
     
  10. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    I'll say, since the perfect order we have in the way of the universe cannot be explained by trillions of independant and competitive entities
     
  11. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    then either you are corrupting language to define god as something mundane (ie not omnipotent, omniscient etc) or you have an inflated sense of the living entity
     
  12. draqon Banned Banned

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    inflated sense of the living entity
     
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  14. draqon Banned Banned

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    Strongest power of will is the strongest God. Sometimes I hear my echo, and think if it is really what I believe in, but there is nothing else to believe in but in me.
     
  15. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    there are other trifling characteristics too - such as being the origin of all creation, the source of all sources, infallible, completely independent etc - if we are gods we are certainly not very effective ones - in short it seems you ar emore in line with corrupting language than having a puffed up sense of I
     
  16. draqon Banned Banned

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    Im more of I dont know anything of this universe, I know I exist right now, who created me? why am I here? why cant I live forever? Is there a God? Why does this God create me only to kill me?...these questions arise and being alive for some time now, I question them and get answers not by what I think of or what other think of, but by observation. I notice that there are humans on this planet and that I am now this human, I also notice that Gods of which some humans speak of are nowhere to be seen. Without any answers with proof from anyone I now only believe in myself, myself only for I know that I currently exist, and I am a God in my own sense as everyone is in their own senses. Why do they wish to kneel before other God and how do they know that God exists? I wonder often. If I dont know if God exists than there is noone to kneel before. And if such God existed would I kneel before him?
     
  17. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    Here's a standard definition of god

    god
    1. god \'ga:d also 'go.d\ n [ME, fr. OE; akin to OHG got god] 1: a being or
    object believed to have more than natural attributes and powe rs and to
    require man's worship; specif : one controlling a particular aspect or part
    of reality 2: a person or thing of supreme value 3: a powerful ruler
    2. God n : the supreme or ultimate reality : as : the Being perfect in
    power, wisdom, and goodness whom men worship as cr eator and ruler of the
    universe Christian Science : the incorporeal divine Principle ruling over
    all as eternal Spirit : infinite Mind

    notice how we don't fit it

    If you want to call a man the president of the united states it implies that the man has substantial political sway in america - if you call some street sweeper the president (even if they happen to be american) its a misuse of terminology - for instance you are plagued by unlimited unanswered questions - god, being omniscient, is not

    You seem to be saying that you are the closest thing you've experienced to being god - you also admit that your experience of the universe is not very extensive

    I don't think it is appropriate that you title yourself god by default, anymore than a street sweeper should declare himself the president of america because the real president will not appear before him to prove he exists
     
  18. draqon Banned Banned

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    so was God a street sweeper before he became a president?

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  19. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    No - god is defined as the cause of all causes - your definition of god however would accommadate god being a street sweeper before he reached "god status", hence it doesn't fit the bill
     
  20. draqon Banned Banned

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    well then my definition of God differs from other's definition of God. Either way I dont feel any of my Gods but me and another of others God.
     
  21. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    Who is more superior? God or the president of the united states? Why don't you call yourself the president of th e united states while you are at it?
     
  22. Cris In search of Immortality Valued Senior Member

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    Remember you can define your god anyway you wish since there is nothing real that you can draw upon for support. So you have as good a chance of being correct or wrong as everyone else.
     
  23. draqon Banned Banned

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    Gods, each in our own way. and bush isnt even a president, he is more of a chmo.
     

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