Were Adam and Eve the first people?

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  1. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Alex

    Was it moving?

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  3. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    The object presumably was round as the photo was a stack of say 30 minutes of frames...in other words the "streak" is its course over half an hour...so it was moving....slowly...
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  5. Neddy Bate Valued Senior Member

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    Alex,

    I think Jan meant, "Were you (emotionally) moved by it?"

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    Was I right?
     
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  7. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    I was not emotionally moved.
    I am an atheist and as Jan will tell you we dont experience emotions or sence of beauty☺.
    It is no more than curious.

    I "discovered" by accident, in so far as I took a photo unaware of the "discovered" object, of a Nova.
    The others were excited but I saw it for what is was...dumb luck covered in ignorance☺.
    In the shots herewith you can see where it wasnt☺
    I took the photo of a wider field two days before it was discovered and realised I may have got it before anyone else...which may be the case.

    But I was not moved☺.

    Here it is...nothing to get excited about.

    Emotions should be banned or at the very least supressed to the point of causing mental disorders.
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  8. Neddy Bate Valued Senior Member

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    Now we're getting somewhere! ☺
     
  9. Dinosaur Rational Skeptic Valued Senior Member

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    From Jan Post 355
    I am not sure what you are referring to.

    I am guessing that you are referring to my claim that the Adam & Eve Garden of Eden story is a myth rather than historical fact.

    From my Post 347
    The fossil record provides facts. The Old Testament provides beliefs of folks from long ago.

    The facts f the fossil record are surely more reliable than the beliefs of folks from thousands of years ago.

    Note that the Old Testament accounts were maintained by the memories of folks over at least a few generations prior to being written. ​

    If your Post 355 relates to some other topic, clarify for me.
     
  10. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 71 years old Valued Senior Member

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    From a cartoon in the NT News paper today
    Adam in conversation with Eve "I enjoyed today. Can I see you again?"

    BINGO - where would the human race be if Eve had said NO? Or vise versa

    Seems gods dating service did not have much to work with and was banking on its first match up working

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    WOW! It is clearly the same coordinate, but in the right pic, the nova is the second brightest phenomena emerging from near total darkness.

    Got my pulse pounding. Witnessing an event so large our imagination fails to comprehend the energy of the forces "at play".
     
  12. TheFrogger Banned Valued Senior Member

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    Boy meets girl.

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  13. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 71 years old Valued Senior Member

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    How come my mate has a deformed chest and no willie?

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  14. TheFrogger Banned Valued Senior Member

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    Lol Michael345. All of society is male, until one man kills the other. God castrates the killer and a female is born.

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  15. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Wait.....Michael is talking about Eve, whom God created to keep Adam company (and procreate). That is a society of two.......1 male, 1 female.

    Are you telling us Eve is a transgender? An novel concept, I must admit.

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  16. TheFrogger Banned Valued Senior Member

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    Originally it was Adam and Steve.

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  17. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Was that before or after eating the fruit from the tree of knowledge?

    We should rewrite the bible. A new main theme, allowing for many plot twists and turns.

    hey, might just become a best seller.........yipppeeeee.......

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  18. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 71 years old Valued Senior Member

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    Pretty sure, based on 40 years as a RN, removing a rib does not go on the OT list as a castration
    Well from the rib she would have received the XY chromosome system

    Thought bubble - ask, you know who, when did the XY in Eve become XX?

    Now your confused. Must have been before since, I have it on good authority, Eve ate the forbidden fruit

    Been done numerous times but main theme remains unchanged and yes it remains a best seller

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  19. TheFrogger Banned Valued Senior Member

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    Michael345, God must have an xy gene because that's the only way a female can inherit an xx gene (because God already has an x.)

    The Bible has a limited time.

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  20. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 71 years old Valued Senior Member

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    Read the above again

    God must have an xy gene

    A given being male

    because that's the only way a female can inherit an xx gene

    Not true. One X from mother, one from father

    But we are considering Eve from a rib, which would only contain XY

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  21. TheFrogger Banned Valued Senior Member

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    If God was xx, the children can ONLY inherit x genes. If God was xy then the children can inherit EITHER an x OR a y gene.

    Apologies Michael345. I see your argument now. I meant to write that God must possess xy genes because that's the only way he could create both male and female children: xx xy.
     
  22. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Isn't it a bit silly to discuss God's genetics? God could will his genetic contribution to Adam and Eve to be whatever he wanted it to be.
     
  23. TheFrogger Banned Valued Senior Member

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    ...if he had BOTH genes himself the children could inherit EITHER.

    But I agree with you JamesR. God could will the genes to be whatever he wanted. Of course should he genetically alter himself for how he WAS, the change would still only effect him for how he IS. Should he wish to become a women so He can give birth to Adam and Eve, the genetic manipulation would only effect him in the PRESENT, not how he WAS. Time-travel is impossible.

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