Mod hat - this was splintered from the Politics thread Should we be worried? The firing of General Flynn by Trump, was not due to anything Flynn did illegally. Rather it was due to Flynn once working for Obama and showing signs of being a Trojan Horse. The way Flynn misled the vice president, resulting in the left leaning controversy, suggested that Flynn was an operative for Obama. Flynn did nothing wrong talking to the Russian, since what he did was also talk to the representatives from over 30 countries, including Russia. The only country you hear about, from the left, is with Russia, so the left can distort reality in favor of the Russian hacking of the election. There was no need for Flynn to mislead the vice president, unless the goal was to create a problem for Trump and the VP Pence. The Democrats had to dig up a 200 year old law that has never been enforced, to spin this as a crime. The reason Flynn was fired, due to misleading, suggested that Flynn was part of the secret shell government, set up by Obama. This shell government is a like an underground resistance based on 8 years of political appointments and mid and high level manager loyalists in the intelligence and government bureaucracies. They are in place, to help undermine Trump or anyone not with their program, often to protect their own interests. The EPA bureaucracy does not benefit by fewer regulations, since you don't need as many people, especially in the middle management level. Flynn may have been a willing participant, or he may have been blackmailed, since he spoke out against Obama, years before and was fired by Obama. Consider what happened to General Petraeus, for speaking out and not playing ball. Or the firing by Obama, may have been staged, to give Flynn credibly, so he could be hidden time bomb in a key inside position. Or he may have accepted the role of trojan horse, to avoid exposure of something that could hurt his career. This may be closest to the truth since Trump likes him as a man but knows what can happen if someone feels trapped. The real story is the leaking of classified information by insiders connected to Obama and Clinton. They broke the law and will be investigated by the AG. However, with the help of fake news, the left was hoping to create a disabling propaganda story, before Trump gets his full cabinet and his supreme court appointment, and becomes too strong for the shell government to do anything but make noise. The left did not learn from history, that Trump is made of teflon. He survived the assault and now the next step will be a counter offensive. This has begun with Trump taking on the fake news media ,and this intelligence loyalists looking for moles. Once they find one and use a harsh penalty as an example, they will sing for immunity.