USA Vs China Trade(Government Taxation) War

Discussion in 'Business & Economics' started by RainbowSingularity, Apr 2, 2018.

  1. RainbowSingularity Registered Senior Member

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    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-43614400

    i have a few questions.
    1. will apple phones & apple computers have heavy tariffs put on them since they are made in china ?
    2. who gets all the money made from the Government Taxation in a Capitalist society ?
    3. what would "winning a trade war" look like in an ecconomic working example between USA & China ?
     
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  3. birch Valued Senior Member

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    1) apple would fight this or just move their manufacturing elsewhere.
    2) elites
    3) bring back some manufacturing jobs that will soon be automated anyways so not completely a win.

    this is all about the elites and corporate greed. people are merely a commodity. when further automation takes over, less people are needed. when less people are needed, the elites still attain the production/goods. there is no reason to bargain. this is actually both good and bad as it reduces the need for a larger population, therefore less pollution, and eventually less competition for resources.

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jan/18/officials-thousands-of-skilled-jobs-are-going-unfi/

    otoh, americans do have their advantages. they have pawned the dirty manufacturing jobs to other nations but demand those unskilled jobs back. do they want to bring back pollution and inflation to their shores just so they can buy their own products? or is it that the general population is too stupid to fill these positions?

    it doesn't look that way as most of these can be filled even by those with less than a bachelors.
     
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  5. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    They will get a break since Apple is a "US" company.
    The government. Which then goes into things like buying bombs, paying government workers and soldiers, paying for medicare/medicaid etc.
    From whose perspective?
     
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  7. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    if you like pork and bacon you should save a few $
    Thanx China
     
  8. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Unless you are a farmer, steelworker or trucker, that is.
     
  9. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    Yeh
    The iowa hog farmers are hoping that the chinese will still want pork

    (some of them seem to be in denial)
     
  10. RainbowSingularity Registered Senior Member

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    very simply....
    it appears the product prices have not included the required cost to pay for the labour to build them.
    thus the corporate entity has sub-prime-mortgaged the cost of labour out to collapse the market.
    now the cost of making the product is more than what the corporates want to pay and they have poisoned the market in pricing with no return to the market with profits to maintain the market health.
    its been dying for a while, so it appears.

    between the outright liars claiming free-lunches are perfectly normal in the global trade market to the conspiracy nut jobs hell bent on watching the entire global economy collpase its hard to see if there is anyone talking facts in the public domain.
     
  11. RainbowSingularity Registered Senior Member

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    china has cheaper pork and chinese wont pay more for US pork so its all over ?
    china likes cheap stuff too.
    china can also expand its own pork production it a much lower cost than US pork and has absolutely no need for US pork at all ?
     
  12. birch Valued Senior Member

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    china has other plans. it's trying to move it's manufacturing base to africa. the positive is that they pay market price instead of exploitation and to help build infrastructure. it's a win/win for both.
     

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