USA - One person shot every 5.2 minutes

Ah, the information was buried in the 'white americans' section of the article, I apologise.That could do with a revision, to make it stand out.

 

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Repeatedly? I missed the reference in the wiki article he linked to because it was under the section 'White Americans' and you know, we were looking for states where whites were a _minority_ so I wasn't looking for the information there.

Oh, and this oversight happened ONCE. So quit being a drama queen and exaggerating.

 

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I think you are confusing me with someone else. I'm merely trying to expose WillNever as a racist.

 

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Hey, I read the page, OK, I'm going to do more research.

Aren't you the buy that believes in alien visitation? Come on, planet Earth calling!

 

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

 

Clearly not.

Then just what the FUCK is your position in this debate John, you've said some rather contradictory, or well, tangential things. Say something, back it up, go on, you can do that, surely?

 

What a waste of bandwidth.

 

Changing your mind now? Only a page ago you assumed I was asking you if you thought I had a problem, but you've forgotten that already?

Write stream of consciousness drivel much?

 

:crazy:

 

What a waste of bandwidth. I think you may become one of the select few on my ignore list John, your posts are utterly worthless.

 

i post what i think fits. if a smilie suffices then why should i sit here and type?

so phlog is anti gun and also shoots and owns guns.

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Approximately 60,000 Americans have been injured in auto accidents since this thread was opened, and another 820 have been killed.

 

Or you could say something meaningful?

Clearly not, as I stated previously.

Oh, and goodbye, John, you are worthless, and on my ignore list from now on.

 

You know ages ago i made a thread based on this. From memory the thread was "what would it take for you to shoot a polition\cop?". Surprisingly concidering this attitude it wasnt something many would actually go out and do under any cirumstances. Therefore i suggest that for many rednecks this is just an excuse, rather than a legitimate concern. Further more as either a different thread or part of that topic i asked "what would it take for the courts to let you off for shooting a cop or polly?" and the answer was prity much what i would expect in ANY country, ie self defence ONLY.

Lastly if the goverment is so dangerious and the gun is a legitimate part of the political proccess then shouldnt the killers of Abe and JFK be concidered heros even if missguided rather than traitors and madmen? Shouldnt they have been able to stand up in court and say "because of these acts of congress and the president i found that it was nessary to kill the president" and have the courts free them?

 

Your point being what..? What I stated in so many words was that racial unrest breeds crime. I never stated "this is the case in 100% of the cities in the world." You providing an example of one city that deviates from that norm, inside of a racially bland country (the UK) doesn't invalidate my assertion that racial unrest breeds crime. It does. It has been going on in the USA for centuries... and we have decades of social science now to prove it. Therefore, it does not matter how many cities with large populations of culturally integrated Indians and Pakistanis you bring up. As a general rule, the pattern still holds true.

So on one hand, we have a correlation between racial diversity in America and crime. On the other end we have, well... nothing compelling at all, except for gun safety statistics in unrelated countries who already have uniformly less crime and less racial diversity. Such statistics are not useful.

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There are tons of such cities, mostly in the South and the West. Texas and California are probably home to most of such cities. Santa Ana is one. I've actually been to Santa Ana. It's a crime-ridden, mostly Mexican shithole.

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For one thing, the largest minority in the USA is hispanics, not afro-caribbeans. For another thing, the USA *IS* in a league of its own. You come from a culturally integrated country where race is a subdued issue and a much more minor political question than in the USA, where race pervades almost every social issue you can think of. Just look at our last election as one example. You are trying to transpose your British thought patterns onto American ideals and issues, and that just doesn't fly.

 

That doesn't make sense, phlog. If they were legislating less control, then crime in Vermont should increase due to there being more gun availability.

That isn't happening, however. Crime is declining in Vermont, as is the case in all of the USA. Your theory doesn't make sense in this situation at all. The same holds true for Connecticut, another low crime, high gun availability state.

I can tell you one very important thing about these two states, however. They are almost completely white.

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I have. Roughly 92-95% of your country is of white European descent, English being the largest foreign national ancestry. Care to expound on this supposed ethnic diversity you have?

Or do you contest this figure? :mufc: