Unworthy of Life

Discussion in 'Ethics, Morality, & Justice' started by SetiAlpha6, Sep 26, 2021.

  1. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, it is. An embryo is vegetative and will likely not survive. (60% of fertilized eggs are aborted naturally.)
     
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  3. Holly-May Leslie Registered Member

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    That is a dumb analogy, since these babies would not have any lives to be taken from them by abortion. The unconscious man would have a life to be taken from him by being killed. Friends and family who would miss him. The baby is a non entity until it becomes aware of itself.
     
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  5. Holly-May Leslie Registered Member

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    Okay. So they're irresponsible. I still think that they should be able to evade the consequences by means of abortion. In fact, I don't think that it is wise for people to suffer for mistakes in general. The sole purpose of punishing people, in society as I see it is to prevent them from doing whatever undesirable thing they were punished for in the future. I don't think that this would work if it was punishing them for mistakes, because mistakes are accidental. As I see it, in order for the world to work, people should suffer for deliberately hurting others, and should never suffer for anything else.
     
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  7. Holly-May Leslie Registered Member

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    That is wrong. Respect for human enjoyment is what must rule. Enjoyment is the only thing that matters. Maybe you were speaking subjectively, in which case, I disagree as a libertarian.
     
  8. Holly-May Leslie Registered Member

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    I think a simple explanation from you will suffice to make me understand your view, rather than me actually being there. Which propaganda?
     
  9. Holly-May Leslie Registered Member

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    I am mature, usually. Sometimes I overreact. Also, were you actually implying that I might end up as one of these women who needs an abortion? I doubt it. I think all of the boys are a little too scared of me for that to ever happen. I'll probably remain a virgin until I am 23 or so due to my directness. Then again, I might not. I mean, just look at my photo! aren't I pretty?
     
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  10. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Nobody is saying that they did the wrong thing. They are saying that having an abortion is doing the wrong thing.
     
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  11. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    You are remarkable ....... that's a fact .....

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  12. Holly-May Leslie Registered Member

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    Thanks. I agree a lot of the time. I just need to get a grip on my SI. From what I know about you, which is not much I admit, I would say that I rather like you also.
     
  13. Holly-May Leslie Registered Member

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    What do you find remarkable about me exactly? I would request elaboration no matter what the ambiguous point was...
     
  14. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    I like the way your mind operates. But I have already commented on that.

    But I do like your self-confidence.

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  15. Holly-May Leslie Registered Member

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    Well how old are you then? It is true that confidence is vital. However, there must be stuff to be confident about too. Otherwise the confidence is unjustified, and will probably lead to disaster.
     
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    Thanks by the way. Have you noticed though that people hate people who love themselves openly?
     
  17. Holly-May Leslie Registered Member

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    What are you like now?
     
  18. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Curious.
     
  19. Holly-May Leslie Registered Member

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    What about? I don't mean to sound like an interrogator here...
     
  20. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Everything, especially the apparent role microtubules play in the emergence of sentient consciousness in bio-chemical patterns. Safely tucked away in Pseudoscience " Is consciousness to be found in quantum processes in microtubules?"
     
  21. Holly-May Leslie Registered Member

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    Well I would say that all actual science is first falsely labelled as pseudoscience.
     
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    For instance, when it was proposed that the earth revolved around the sun and that was dubbed pseudoscience in favor of vice versa.
     
  23. Holly-May Leslie Registered Member

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    It is really impossible to be unaware because one can not not have a perspective from one's own perspective. Therefore, one must have a perspective from one's own perspective. The microtubules do seem like a feasible place for the connection of awareness to the body to take place though. I mean, dr stuart hameroff has observed that the functioning of these microtubules is all that is really affected by anesthetics, so that is some evidence for this.
     
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