Universal Constant -Science and philosophy collide

do you exist when you are unconscious?

 

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now you thinking like me

remember(post #9 Nothing can be measured without points. You cannot go to B without an A.


No measurement can exists without time. So the existence is relative from a point greater than zero, not of nothing or absolute zero )

i've been cured from that illness.

 

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each night you sleep is like practicing death.

the awareness to 'I' is gone..................

what's that got to do with zero.........?


but good to see you realized no distance without time,

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such as no mass without energy.

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.........what three are required? (get MET)

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So Bishadi using this logic how big is the universe if t=0

Such as in the HSP? [point between past and future?]

 

when you get there tell me about it, and we can both perhaps study it 'with honesty.'

is NOW.

did you get lost again?

 

uuhm.....simple question Bishadi. You have already answered it indirectly....so go on pull out the big gun and try for gold.

How big is the universe if t=0?

or does not supporting someone elses ideas even if it means shooting your own down what you want to do....in other words you know we agree but you are reluctant to demonstrate it

 

that is like saying:

"if my aunt had balls she'd be my uncle"

all you are doing is running an idea that if time did not exist, then nothing exists.

and since in real world application that is impossible, then your aunt is still your aunt......... just as she was when you were born.

 

and all you are doing is avoiding the question or should I say the answer?

And if your Aunt turns out to have balls what does that make you - a nephew or a niece?

 

Evidence from operating rooms strongly suggests that yes, "you" (by which I presume you mean your conscious awareness) still exists to a degree when unconscious under normal circumstances. (I.e. you still can process external data and understand when it is addressed to you, to a degree.)

Its just that your awareness of your awareness is lost.

Generally organic damage is needed to destroy "you" from the brain, though usually people fragment and degrade unless there is significant damage.

 

nope kid......... you lost this debate days ago and to stupid to figure that out.

That would mean what?

 

not my loss Bishadi but every one elses.....go figure
when they have to read your flaming and waste their time.

 

I'll re post the OP for you:

Maybe you would care to tackle the issue at hand or would you prefer to continue playing the "person" rather than the "ball"?

 

and that 'constant' is the math describing the process; not a value starting from a zero which cannot not exist from a void, within existence.

the summation you have presented is not only flawed but impossible.

and that is what you need to come to terms with.

 

mathematics doesn't create the constant Bishadi it only attempts to describe it.

A bit like saying that the primary causation of the "universal constant gravity"

is ....mathematics! and you expect to be taken seriously!

and some would say so to is the very existence of this universe - that being impossible!

re: exnhilo creation, after all where did this universe come from?

 

and why do I need to do that pray tell?

 

Exactly.


The only escape from this truth, would be to assert that this purported universal constant then, exists primarily in the mind....

eeek,

 

and why zero is non descriptive unless measured against something else

 

By this Glaucon, I gather you are saying that the notion zero, or nothingness is merely a mental construct and has no significant relation to the reality of existence? "A pig that flies " sort of imaginary entity.
Just to confirm....If I may....

 

Hmmm.. well, not exactly.

In particular, I was just trying to support your tack that if there is to be such a thing as a universal constant, it cannot be found within the realm of mathematics. (Unless I was completely mis-reading you...)

However, to answer your question here I then say this: yes, zero (but not nothingness) is 'merely' a mental construct. However, this does not mean that it has no significant relation to our reality; on the contrary, zero is essential to our mathematical understanding.

Nothingness, is an entirely different sort of creature...

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Regarding the issue in physics.
To entangle two objects with a separating distance between them with out any obvious material connection [ vacuum ] how do we think this entanglement is possible?
Using an imaginary construct labeled zero would be appropriate don't you think? Given that the separating distance may be many thousands of light years and involve virtually an infinite number of objects.