Unbelievers are superstitious and unrepentant

Discussion in 'Religion' started by Saint, Oct 27, 2016.

  1. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    And asserting God does not mean that God does exist.

    Take my word for it: there are plenty of unbelievers out there who know the bible much better than than the average believer.

    As for truth, what exactly is it that you are asserting as the the truth of the bible?
     
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  3. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    Well, faith is a backup plan for when we have no real knowledge. Of course faith should never be used in place of real knowledge.
     
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  5. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    Faith -> science -> knowledge. Duh
     
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  7. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    Belief and theory are potential for gnosis.
     
  8. Spellbound Banned Valued Senior Member

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    • If you are looking to get permanently banned from SciForums, this is a fantastic way to accomplish it.
    Xelasnave1947,


    I am actually very happy. And I want nothing to do with your evil and the lies that you spread on these forums. And supposedly since you claim to be of a non-delusional mind, yet you deny God, that is the only conclusion that I can draw as we are both similar in that respect and that respect alone. I have read most of your posts in these forums and I know you. You probably have read all of my posts on these forums and know me, I wouldn't be surprised. Mark my words, you are my nemesis. You are my enemy. And I will observe your every action on these forums. For the safety and well-being of sciforums.

    I would prefer it if you were banned and left me alone for all eternity.

    Fuck off and have a nice life you Aids ridden piece of filth. Your days of destroying lives are over. God is on my side. And will always be on my side. I will make certain you do not victor. For the vengeance of God is at hand.

    20 The wicked suffer pain all their lives; the cruel suffer during all the years saved up for them. 21Terrible sounds fill their ears, and when things seem to be going well, robbers attack them. 22 Evil people give up trying to escape from the darkness; it has been decided that they will die by the sword. 23 They wander around and will become food for vultures. They know darkness will soon come. 24 Worry and suffering terrify them; they overwhelm them, like a king ready to attack,25 because they shake their fists at God and try to get their own way against the Almighty. 26 They stubbornly charge at God with thick, strong shields.27 "Although the faces of the wicked are thick with fat, and their bellies are fat with flesh, 28 they will live in towns that are ruined, in houses where no one lives, which are crumbling into ruins. 29 The wicked will no longer get rich, and the riches they have will not last; the things they own will no longer spread over the land. 30 They will not escape the darkness. A flame will dry up their branches; God's breath will carry the wicked away. 31 The wicked should not fool themselves by trusting what is useless. If they do, they will get nothing in return. 32 Their branches will dry up before they finish growing and will never turn green. 33 They will be like a vine whose grapes are pulled off before they are ripe, like an olive tree that loses its blossoms. 34 People without God can produce nothing. Fire will destroy the tents of those who take money to do evil, 35 who plan trouble and give birth to evil, whose hearts plan ways to trick others."

    -Job 15.

     
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  9. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    Why not Sailor Moon?
     
  10. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Congratulations on maintaining the moral high ground by giving a reasoned, logical and precisely-argued rebuttal.
    It would have been all too easy to fall into the trap of simply posting a foaming-at-the-mouth rant that does nothing except support the notion that you're mentally unhinged.
     
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  11. wegs Matter & Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    I think that is one of the most fallacious ideas about atheism, actually.
     
  12. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Hi Nick I am sorry you regard me with hate. I don't hate you simply because you hold a belief different to mine. I don't read your posts but I found your unkind words about me on another forum saying I was the anti Christ and confusing me with someone else.
    And so it was that post that brought you to my attention.
    I think you are wrong that I can influence others such that I could corrupt their faith.
    Your wish that my life is full of suffering has been granted for I do suffer terrible pain daily and I have no wealth which must make you happy. Except for my caring attitude for others I can boast no outstanding or novel qualities.
    I can not understand why you could hate a stranger such as myself so much.
    I wish nothing but the best for you and I am sincerely sorry that my posts have upset you.
    Look on the bright side I don't have much time left on this planet and it won't be long before you can rejoice because I have gone to hell.

    But you have made me realise I have been wrong to argue against another persons beliefs and for that I apologise to you and any others that I have caused annoyance.
    You take care of yourself and have a good life.
    Best wishes
    Alex
     
  13. wegs Matter & Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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  14. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    And Nick for guidance simply ask of yourself...How would Jesus have acted if faced with the situation before me (you).
    I have read the bible and know that we are told to love our enemy, we are told to turn the other cheek, we are told to foster positive emotions such as love, faith, hope, charity, etc and to reject negative emotions such as hate, pride, greed etc. I can't recall the reference but I think it is in Matthew in the New Testament.
    From my reading it would seem Jesus wants us to be nice to each other and not to do so is a grave sin.
    Have you read ALL the bible, I hope so, because I find so many folk who profess its value only cherry pick its contents to justify their personal stance. I regard those folk as the worst hypocrites that exist.
    How it would anger a God to see folk using his book as a tool of hate I often wonder about.
    I mean those who don't believe and follow his word must stand above those who say they believe but trash the teachings laid out. I bet those hypocrites would not be favoured by any God real or imaginary.
    My worry for you is a demon has possessed your sole causing you not to follow the teachings of your Lord.
    That's why I suggest lots of sunlight because demons don't like sunlight..that's true isn't it?
    Best wishes.
    Alex
     
  15. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    Spellbound has been permanently evicted from SciForums for that disgusting display of vitriol, bigotry, and general douche-baggery. This is NOT a platform from which to spew hate and threats based on your interpretation of your religion; additionally, your chosen religion is NOT an excuse to attack others.

    Now - can this thread be continued in a civilized manner, or should it simply be locked and cesspooled?
     
  16. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    That is a pity he seemed like a nice chap who just needed to get out more.
    Anyways back to the sock draw I suspect.
    Full marks for entertainment value an interesting character development even if the realism is a little difficult to swallow.
    And Nick if you are there please note I did not report you because I did not take your words as insulting.
    There was an interesting comment made by a judge in a defamation case that I offer to you as a helpful guide when constructing insults....
    "The lady would not object to people saying she had a red nose, unless, indeed she did have a red nose."

    Alex
     
  17. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    Sinner who never admits he/she is sinner is the most pityful sinner.
     
  18. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Yes I agree that was my point. To say you believe in Jesus and the teaching in the New Testament such as love your fellow man, turn the other cheek etc and yet then to do the opposite in your life and approach to others is indeed the most pityful sinner because they are hypocrites.
    How harshly will they be punished I wonder. How terrible will be their afterlife as they will no doubt have their gross hypocracy rewarded with an eternity in hell.
    I mean if I were in the shoes of such a sinner I would be afraid to sleep lest I die and go to hell.
    Their sins will not be forgotten either. Sad is it not.
    That's the problem I have with the believers I come into contact with...they don't follow the teachings of the bible and can be very dishonest.
    I mean many use sock puppets here, that is obvious, yet as dishonest as that is these so called believers continue to sin away and then claim it is others who have a problem.

    No wonder folk call them delusional and dishonest.

    As you say pitiful sinners who can not admit their sins are worse than anything a non believer could present.

    You are so right.

    Being a believer it must upset you to see these hypocritical sinners bring scorn and disgust upon the christian community.

    Weed them out and help them find true faith and devotion.

    Good for you Saint.

    Alex
     
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  19. Saint Valued Senior Member

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    In this age, there are still people who ask silly questions like:
    1. show me God then I can believe
    2. show me hell and heaven
    3. show me human's spirit
     
  20. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    And the funny thing is: theists declare - without evidence - that people are "sinners".
    They never seem to consider the possibility that people don't "admit to being a sinner" because they actually aren't.

    Almost as silly as taking it on faith that they do exist just because a book says so.

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  21. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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  22. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Those are not questions they sound like demands.

    And would you not think those are reasonable demands.

    If I told you I own a solid gold boat would you not wish to see it to confirm its existence or would you simply believe it because I wrote such a claim in a book?

    If I told you I have land where the trees grow dollar notes and the streams are lemonade would you not want to see these things to verify that I am not a lieing fool?

    I would not lie but I would not be offended if you demanded more than my say so...

    Would you believe me simply if I made those claims in a book?

    I can't comment on the spirit as I don't know what it means.

    Thank you for your input.
    Alex
     
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