Tunnels Reverse Global Warming And Weaken Hurricanes

Discussion in 'Earth Science' started by cat2only, Sep 17, 2007.

  1. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    If there's enough turbulence to mix the Gulf Stream, it would interrupt the flow. If the water flows smoothly, the cold water would just sink.
     
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  3. cat2only Registered Senior Member

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    Gravity takes over and causes the water to mix as it falls into the warmer waters below.
    There are 4 stages to the tunnels:
    1st stage is the cooling stage. This stage provides electrical power while controlling our weather due to the fact that it can regulate SSTs.
    2nd stage is the non- cooling stage. This stage provides electrical power also and may control the weather somewhat by eliminating the fossils.
    3rd stage is the environmental stage. This stage uses both stages 1 and 2 to reverse the harm we have already done by burning the fossils since the start of the industrial revolution by regulating SSTs and removing the fossils.
    4th stage is the Earths purification stage. This stage will come into effect later down the road as the tunnels effects take over and the Earth purges itself of all these impurities we have bestowed upon it over the last centry. Sadly, this may take 100hundred years to occur but if we start now we can prevent all the Arctic Ice from melting by 2040.
     
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  5. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    This won't change a thing regarding arctic melting. Ocean surface temperature is not the sole effect of global warming. May I ask how old you are?
     
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  7. cat2only Registered Senior Member

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    I know. I found over 250 items the tunnels can prevent thus far I am sure the list is much larger. Age doesn't matter.
     
  8. guthrie paradox generator Registered Senior Member

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    It does insofar as we like to work out which category of kook to put you in.
    For example, if you are retired, that is a different category than if you are only 17.
     
  9. cat2only Registered Senior Member

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    What if you are 17 and retired?
     
  10. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    Then you should know better.
     
  11. cat2only Registered Senior Member

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    Know better what?
     
  12. MacGyver1968 Fixin' Shit that Ain't Broke Valued Senior Member

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    What I don't understand is how you can estimate the total cost of the project at $20 billion, when you don't even know how many of these tunnels you plan on constructing, and how big they will be. If there were 20,000, like your expert said, that would be only $1 million each. You can't build anything on the open ocean that's 1300 feet long for only a million. Hell..it would cost that much just to transport it.

    If you could build, transport, and deploy one of these 20,000 tunnels a day, every day, it would take 60 years to install them all. It would cost a WHOLE lot more than 20 billion.

    To me, this is one of those ideas that looks good on paper...but the scale is just way to massive to be practically implemented.
     
  13. cat2only Registered Senior Member

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    They can do it easy. Heck they were building one liberty ship per day at the end of WWII.
    These are much less complex than that.
     
  14. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    Isn't the water in the Gulf Stream already circulated by it's own movement? And the parts where it isn't being circulated are the cold areas, so, where will the momentum come from to force the cold water into the tunnels? Nothing would happen except warm water flowing around them.
     
  15. cat2only Registered Senior Member

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    The Coriolis effect strongly affects the large-scale oceanic and atmospheric circulation, leading to the formation of robust features like jet streams and western boundary currents like the Gulfstream. Such features are in geostrophic balance, meaning that the Coriolis and pressure gradient forces balance each other. Coriolis acceleration is also responsible for the propagation of many types of waves in the ocean and atmosphere, including Rossby waves and Kelvin waves. It is also instrumental in the so-called Ekman dynamics in the ocean, and in the establishment of the large-scale ocean flow pattern called the Sverdrup balance.

    You can think of the Earth as being a giant vane pump. If you look at the yellow line it looks like a vane on a pump impeller.

    http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b6/Corioliskraftanimation.gif
     
  16. Read-Only Valued Senior Member

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    Indeed - age most certainly does matter!

    I noticed something very consistent about your posts long ago but wasn't going to mention it. But now that it's been brought to the forefront I will.

    Your somewhat sloppy use of terminology, inability to see the parallels in a simple example (mine - about Hawking and medicine), repeated refusal to answer questions posed to you, lack of understanding of the importance of the lack of cross-field qualifications and expertise - and the list goes on.

    All of these things clearly indicate an immature mind - and also one that hasn't yet even completed the basics presented in public schools.

    Don't misunderstand me - there's nothing wrong with being young as long as one is willing to learn. But there certainly IS something wrong with being young and adamantly ignoring facts presented by people who know more than you.

    You should back up a long way and consider the fact that your "idea" basically falls short right at the beginning. It's not practical from a physical standpoint not from a financial one. The amount of materials and labor required would FAR exceed the tiny cost you've presented. Hopefully, by now you also realize than no one is going to commit the funds needed to even attempt such a red-herring project. Indeed, it's one of those HUGE glowing ideas that looks good on paper but is impossible to implement.

    Don't stop thinking, though. One day you may well come up with something that could actually work. In the meanwhile, stay in school and keep studying AND actually listen more to those who are better trained and much more educated than you are.
     
  17. cat2only Registered Senior Member

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    Tick tock goes the clock!
    While the Arctic melts away!
    The Tunnels have the world in checkmate!
    While the fossils burn away!
     
  18. cat2only Registered Senior Member

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    Tunnels prevent this.


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    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/09/070917172937.htm
     
  19. Read-Only Valued Senior Member

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    No, it wouldn't because your tunnels would not even function. The basic flaw in your idea is that you don't even understand some very simple stuff.

    The speed of the water flowing in the Gulf Stream is a paltry four miles per hour. That's nowhere enough speed/momentum to force the much colder, denser (and higher salinity) water to rise to the surface through your tunnels. It would simply pile up at first and then just slide around them in a very wide band.

    It would require huge pumps and a tremendous amount of energy to bring a significant amount of that water to the surface.
     
  20. cat2only Registered Senior Member

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    Pascal says any pressure differential within an enclosed system where energy is conserved a flow will occur! Therefore, Pascal's law can be interpreted as saying that any change in pressure applied at any given point of the fluid is transmitted undiminished throughout the fluid including against the walls.

    So Pascal is wrong now. Now don't just Read-Only try to comprehend once. Geesh!
     
  21. cat2only Registered Senior Member

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  22. Read-Only Valued Senior Member

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    You TOTALLY misunderstand Pascal!! Probably worse that anyone else I've ever seen.:bugeye: Go back and get your schoolbook and actualy STUDY that part again!!!!!!!!!
     
  23. cat2only Registered Senior Member

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    Ok! How are you interpreting it?
     

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