The irony of this is that I've had almost no problems with viruses or spyware on my own Windows machines. But my friends and relatives have given me lots of experience in scraping the latest Win anti virus nuke ware off of their machines. They are the people that I would like to set up with virus and spyware proof machines; but the same lack of understanding of how to avoid getting spyware in the first place makes trying to set them up with some sort of Linux machine impossible. I've toyed with the idea of trying to move my mother to Windows 7 from XP, but I've come to the same conclusion every time I've contemplated it - there is no way it would be worth all of the bitching and moaning. Her cat managed to hit the F11 key last time I was at her place, and she was freaking out at me about how I had "Changed everything around". As far as expense goes, I never paid for Windows until the release of Windows 7. My own limited experience with Red Hat, and an Ubuntu release from about four years ago bored me to tears. I understand Windows, and it does what I want. I don't have anything driving me to learn Linux.