The true perpetual motion machines

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  1. c7ityi_ Registered Senior Member

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    most people on this thread. hate. make fun. same thing. maybe.

    they do, tesla made some, but there's nothing strange about them since they just draw energy from the space/ethers around us.

    http://www.t0.or.at/tesla/tesfreee.htm
    http://free-energy.ws/tesla.html

    an ordinary magnet actually gives free energy. if you have two magnets, and put them close enough, they'll move together by themselves. it's free energy.
     
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  3. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    tesla made perpetual motion machines?
    can you give an example?
     
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  5. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    it sounds like it's free energy but it isn't.
    it takes energy to seperate the magnets
     
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  7. c7ityi_ Registered Senior Member

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    he made a free energy receiver, which is the same thing.

    it takes no energy for them to unite.
     
  8. Absane Rocket Surgeon Valued Senior Member

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    Umm... correct me if I am wrong it takes energy to cause an attraction in the first place?
     
  9. c7ityi_ Registered Senior Member

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    I don't think today's physicists know the cause of attraction, but it takes no energy to cause an attraction. Infact, you can take a magnet and rub it against metallic objects, and they'll become magnets, yet the first magnet's attraction is no weaker than before. This is because a magnet's force does not come from the magnet itself, but it draws the force from the space around us. All things are a kind of magnets.

    It's the energy of space which keeps things separate, like planets and stars, and space is the cause of the incredible speeds of objects in the universe. It is the cause of everything, even matter.
     
  10. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    i never heard of a free energy receiver. what is it?
     
  11. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    but it takes energy to seperate them

    two magnets moving toward each other is not perpetual motion.
     
  12. Absane Rocket Surgeon Valued Senior Member

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    I think I read in my physics book that it could be caused by the spinning of electrons. Give me some time to dig it up and I will get back to you on that

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  13. CANGAS Registered Senior Member

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    Physics book knows everything. Research is shut down. Dig. Get back.
     
  14. Absane Rocket Surgeon Valued Senior Member

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    I said COULD, not "DOES KNOW"
     
  15. Hurricane Angel I am the Metatron Registered Senior Member

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    CANGAS has a problem with modern physics.

    Right, I recall when you said you were researching into "absolute space" as a model for the universe.
     
  16. c7ityi_ Registered Senior Member

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    http://www.t0.or.at/tesla/tesfreee.htm

    what does it matter? or... does it really take energy? what kind of energy?

    i didn't say that either. i said that it's free energy. motion is possible in the universe without using any energy. with magnets, for someone with knowledge, it would probably also be pretty easy to create a perpetual motion machine.
     
  17. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    interesting.
    tesla was a genius there is no doubt.
    some of his work is still classified as military secrets.
    some more of his work has been used in reagans "star wars" defense initiative also known as SDI.
    as to the link this is the first i heard of something like this.
     
  18. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    if two magnets are stuck together it take energy to seperate them

    example
    you grab one magner in your left hand, the other in your right hand
    the magnetic attraction takes energy to move the magnets apart.
     
  19. c7ityi_ Registered Senior Member

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    but isn't human energy also free energy?
     
  20. baumgarten fuck the man Registered Senior Member

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    No, humans need food.
     
  21. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    For one thing, magnets are made, not found floating in space a convenient distance apart so the miniscule amount of energy that could be harnessed by their attractice force could be utilised. So you have to factor the energy of making them, and them bringing them into proximity, which would be many, many times any output.

    Nope, 'someone with knowledge' would know that this violates the laws of physics. No system is perfect, and energy fields are conservative. Perpetual motion is impossible.
     
  22. c7ityi_ Registered Senior Member

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    yea, but you have to go deeper and ask the next question: does food need energy to be. what kind of energy? etc. you have to solve the question: why does the universe exist? the universe exists, so 'energy' must have been created from nothingness.

    it only violates the laws of certain narrow-minded physicists.

    the universe is kind of.
     
  23. aristootle Pragmatician, InfinityPhobic Registered Senior Member

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    I am reminded of another "free energy" device, a propeller on a car that generates "free lectricity" when the car moves..... Then the guy told me that the only reason the propeller is not a part of all cars is the GM/Ford conspiracy.

    I think that perpetual motion machine is not possible, because i believe college physics and conservation of energy/matter theories.

    But, i also believe that pseudo perpetual motion is possible, like a fuel cell powered device, where the fuel cell works off micro fusion/fission reactions. This would get its energy from nuclear forces (vast amounts available) and appear to be perpetual cause it runs for decades.
     
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