link to me the evidence, the proof, that she had anything to do with funding this or that this she was any more than just one among many of the people that they recruited for the film? Your contention is that she is the primary investor, yes? and the link, the evidence for this is? From everything I have read and seen, she is no more suspect then the form irish catholic priest in the film. you just have an axe to grind. :shrug:
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mmmph how positively desperate that sounds lucysnow probably imagines she scored with that garbage about palestinian suffering. however....... it is a goddamn secret the frikkin palestinians are not in the know Given the low average buying power of the Palestinian today, it is obvious that the use of the Internet is limited to a minority of professionals, students, and academics or of senior civil servants of the central administration. Our interlocutors all agree on the fact that the main uses of the Internet are related to studies and research, communication (chat and e-mail) and marketing. In short, the Palestinian net is precarious and entirely dependent on the Hebrew State for its connections. In theory, the latter can at any time isolate the whole or part of the West Bank through his national telephone operator. It can also monitor the content of the messages travelling in and out of the West Bank. ja even the bootlegs coming outta zion are unaffordable it would take generations for the brusied and battered psyche of my palestinian brothers and sisters to mend from the inhumane and savage brutality and oppression of their zionist overlords. the secret consists of arduous and time consuming techniques stuff that is hard to indulge in when you are busy dodging zionist missiles!
alright make the case lets try hagelin in washington dc (link) a synopsis would be good ...he neglects to mention that the Washington crime experiment was consistent with 41 previous studies of the effects of Transcendental Meditation on social quality-of-life variables, many of them studied in the previously published research mentioned above. links to the 41?
There's a story by Gordon R. Dickson called, Danger! Human! (sounds right up your alley) that offered an explanation similiar to The Secret. http://www.webscription.net/chapters/0743471741/0743471741___1.htm
An except from an ABC interview with Bob Proctor the producer who is getting rich from 'The Secret': CYNTHIA McFADDEN …about this part of the DVD. Uh, uh, a woman gives a testimonial in which she says she was diagnosed with breast cancer, that she – BOB PROCTOR [OVERLAP] Um hum. CYNTHIA McFADDEN …of movies and that she was cancer-free within three months without any form of treatment. Now, do you believe that? BOB PROCTOR I believe that’s happened to a lot of people. I don’t know the woman. I don’t know that situation. So I couldn’t comment on that situation. But I think there’s a lot of people, when they go back to the doctor, the doctor’s astounded. He said, I don’t know what happened but it’s not there. CYNTHIA McFADDEN [OVERLAP] Without treatment? BOB PROCTOR If you, what we should do is get all kinds of doctors in for memory or some of these, uh, uh, cancer hospitals and ask them, Does this happen? I think it happens often. We just don’t hear about it and we don’t understand it. CYNTHIA McFADDEN Yeah. BOB PROCTOR [OVERLAP] And anything we don’t understand we have a tendency to criticize or ridicule. That particular woman, I don’t know her. I don’t understand the situation. CYNTHIA McFADDEN Um, let’s go back to the cancer si…situation. So, uh, I, I, I understand we can’t speak to the particular woman in this. But in theory the idea that you can, you can be healthy by, by truly believing in it, by, by asking for health and believing in your own health. BOB PROCTOR [OVERLAP] Yes, yes CYNTHIA McFADDEN I spoke yesterday with the President of the American Cancer Society. BOB PROCTOR Yes. CYNTHIA McFADDEN He said he finds this alarming. Uh… BOB PROCTOR I would find it alarming, too, if that’s as far as it went. But I’m sure if you spoke to the President of the Cancer Society and asked him, Should a person image perfect health while the doctor is treating the body?, I think he would say, Absolutely. CYNTHIA McFADDEN Well, but the problem is – BOB PROCTOR [OVERLAP] But I don’t say you should reject physical treatment or, or, uh, or therapy. I wouldn’t say that. CYNTHIA McFADDEN You wouldn’t say that? BOB PROCTOR [OVERLAP] Absolutely not. CYNTHIA McFADDEN [OVERLAP] The video seems to suggest, though, that that is a way – BOB PROCTOR [OVERLAP] Well, that might, that might be implied. But I think, I don’t think that’s Rhonda Byrne’s suggestion. It’s certainly not mine. If I was diagnosed with cancer I’d be the first to go and I would take whatever treatment they gave me. I would start working on my mind myself. And if you asked Rhonda Byrne she would tell you the same thing. I know the woman well. The criticism of her is very unfair. CYNTHIA McFADDEN So, but I’m perplexed. Why put that testimonial in this DVD? Because that’s – BOB PROCTOR [OVERLAP] I don’t know. CYNTHIA McFADDEN …what a lot of people have latched onto. BOB PROCTOR Yes, and I don’t know why she put it in. I didn’t make it and I haven’t asked her. CYNTHIA McFADDEN From where you sit would you prefer that it weren’t there? BOB PROCTOR Probably, yes. CYNTHIA McFADDEN Let me ask you about another example that troubles me. BOB PROCTOR But, but, Cynthia, I, I would also say that the fact that it’s there it’s causing a lot of people to think about it and so it’s gonna cause a lot of people to do some research and, and they’re gonna find some things that they don’t know. CYNTHIA McFADDEN Well, in fact, uh, the President of the American Cancer Society says there is absolutely no evidence that we bring cancer, disease on ourselves. There is absolutely no evidence for that scientifically. BOB PROCTOR [OVERLAP] Um hum, um hum. CYNTHIA McFADDEN [OVERLAP] What do you say to that? BOB PROCTOR Well, I think he’s, I think he’s inform…not well informed in this area. I mean, I, I just don’t believe it. If we go back, um, the medicine that we’re taking is causing more problems than it’s eliminating. Look at the drugs, the only drugs that are outlawed today are the ones the parents don’t take. Houses are full of this stuff. CYNTHIA McFADDEN But, but he’s saying, uh, uh, uh, I mean, I, I read him a couple of the things that you had said. Let me, I’ll, uh, so we can talk specifically. Let’s see. [PAUSE] Oh, okay, hold it. Let me get to the health part. Um, you say on the video, Disease cannot live in a body that has a healthy emotional state. Your body is casting off millions of cells every second and, and creating millions of new cells. If you have a disease and you’re focusing on it and you’re talking to people about it, you’re going to create more disease cells. BOB PROCTOR I believe that’s true. CYNTHIA McFADDEN Now… BOB PROCTOR You’re giving energy to it. Emerson said the only thing that can grow is a thing you give energy to. CYNTHIA McFADDEN He, he says, There’s absolutely no scientific evidence that people attract – [INAUDIBLE] BOB PROCTOR [OVERLAP] He’s studying disease. He should study health. I don’t think he’s studying health at all. I think, I think he’s studying disease. What about all the preventative medicine that’s going on today? There’s an enormous movement worldwide taking place in that area. That’s, it’s a, the pharmaceutical companies are trying to shut it down. CYNTHIA McFADDEN So you’re saying literally, If we have cancer we have thoughts that bring us the cancer? BOB PROCTOR Well, I don’t think a person gets cancer cause they’re thinking of getting cancer. I, I have read different things where a lot of cancer is caused by suppression. People are, are suppressing their energy and there has to – CYNTHIA McFADDEN [OVERLAP] But you’re saying that it’s a thought can cause it – uh, uh, whatever the thought might be but the thought can cause cancer. BOB PROCTOR [OVERLAP] Well, I, I believe, I believe thought’s the preamble to everything. [PAUSE] CYNTHIA McFADDEN So when little children get sick with some dread disease it’s their thoughts? BOB PROCTOR Well, no, I don’t think it’s the child’s thoughts. I think a lot of that is passed along genetically. I think it’s from the environment that the child’s in. The child’s subconscious mind is wide open. But in answer to some of those questions, I, I, I was asked about to do foreign and different things, I don’t know the answer to that. I don’t know the answer to 9/11. I, there’s a lot of things I don’t know. But there’s some things that I do know, that I live by and it works very well for me and the people that I teach it to. CYNTHIA McFADDEN See, one of the things this, uh, cancer doctor says is that he has treated lots of people who believed that they were sick, believed they were going to die and still got well. How do you explain that? BOB PROCTOR I don’t know. I don’t know. But I do know that, uh – Let, let’s take Mazlo. CYNTHIA McFADDEN Who? BOB PROCTOR The doctors are studying disease. Mazlo said, Wait a minute. Uh, Pavlov is, uh, studying, uh, dogs, uh, uh, uh, and it goes, somebody else is studying sick people. He started to study the healthiest specimens he could find. If we want to study health, let’s study the real healthy specimens. And I don’t think that’s being done by a lot of the medical profession. I don’t know the answer to some of these questions, Cynthia, but I do know that your thoughts control the vibration you’re in and the vibration you’re in’s gonna dictate what you attract – not just in for a few minutes, but the one you’re in most of the time. We’re paradigms. We’re conditioned to be the way we are. And we can change that conditioning. So you see people if you get ill go and get your chemo and try to stay positive.Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Hey he doesn't even know who the woman is giving testimonial in the film but forget about that, he admits there is a lot he doesn't know and a lot he doesn't have the answer to. 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scrolling past lucysnow's post is giving me calluses on my index finger reported! i shall also bill sci for medical expenses
It's a good story, one of my favorites which I first read as a child. I'd never heard of "the secret" when I first read the story, but it seems to posit the existence of such a "force" as a fundamental strength of the human species in particular. You can read the whole story here (it's pretty short) http://www.webscription.net/chapters/0743471741/0743471741___1.htm
