The Most Important Works In Science Fiction

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  1. Spellbound Banned Valued Senior Member

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    Yes. That is correct. The very best they have to offer. In my view.
     
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  7. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    There are some who - as I - think that Star Wars wasn't and isn't science fiction at all.

    And that Frankenstein was - speaking of influential works.

    And that Dark Star should have had far more influence than it has. Special effects budget: $11.98, including the soap for washing out mom's popcorn poppers and ice cube trays. Production skills: student grade. Writing: crackerjack. Result: fine movie. Hello? To borrow and amend a quote: Teach the bums phenomology.
     
  8. psikeyhackr Live Long and Suffer Valued Senior Member

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    Star Wars has influenced the genre, mostly in the wrong direction. But it is the success of Star Wars that motivated people to come up with the money for Star Trek the Motionless Picture. LOL

    The World Set Free by H. G. Wells is important for the term and concept of the "Atomic Bomb". It influenced Leo Szilard.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-33365776

    1945 was a critical year. Arthur C. Clarke wrote a letter about geostationary satellites in February, the atomic bomb was detonated, the ENIAC computer became operational and Clark published an article about geosync satellites in October.

    psik
     
  9. birch Valued Senior Member

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    second favorite film of all time (so far). some scenes in this film are like a work of art. i especially like the ambient lighting and both the casual coziness and reverent awe that was captured in the mercury viewing scene.



    this scene moves me like nothing else on film. it gives me goosebumps every time because it's at once pathetic/desperate/dire (situation) yet heroic/sacrificing at the same time.



    favorite scene in any film (so far). there is a haunting beauty to it.

    ironicly, i was ambiguous and mostly on pinbacker's side. but there is a paradox to the underlying reason (not cruelty) and that is the idealism humanity does not live up to, including me (only a part, the best part that seems not from this grungy world, the rest is so faulty, frail or weak) but so much suffering and wrong, so i want to go to a better world/leave it all if i can't be perfect and the world is not perfect. ironicly, it would require the sacrifice of the most precious things/aspects that you are actually trying to save. that's what ending it all requires and that is why evil tethers itself to what is good so that you won't to save which is good, true and worthy.
     
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    that ending scene is so epic to me because you could write a whole thesis on it besides the underlying philosophical question of whether humanity deserves saving besides the technical marvel to pull off such a stunt in this hypothetical situation.

    there would be so many emotions and thoughts happening simultaneously: the horrible realization that it's the end, that you are dying, that you wll be burned to death as you watch the almost innocently beautiful first flickers of the payload actually work that you were hoping on hope would pay off and it did like a desperate miracle and you are resigned to appreciate the beautiful yet terrible/frightening and indifferent power of nature inside this box that is your demise yet the saving grace for many others and those you love. the desperate relief that it worked, then the exhiliaration/high, the sadness/loneliness, the fear of dying, the will to survive and your life flashing before your eyes and that last most precious and innocent part of you that says 'i' wondering perhaps will there be a part of me that will go on, will i be remembered etc as who you were disintegrates and melds into nothing with the universe.

    the whole adrenaline rush of so many emotions and thoughts.
     
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  11. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    I've never even heard of this film.
     
  12. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    Keeps putting me to sleep.
     
  13. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Well, yes. Because it is space opera/fantasy. It just happens to be wildly popular space opera/fantasy.

    Nobody ever questions why there's no science in Star Wars - spaceships making noise while flying through space, etc. - because nobody holds it to sci-fi as the standard. it's held to the standard of Space Opera Fantasy.
     
  14. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    Comic book movies.
     
  15. birch Valued Senior Member

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    it's underrated. but i think it's one of the best sci-fi movies ever made.
     
  16. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    That would be a misnomer. Star Wars was not a comic in any sense.

    If one wanted to make a 'comic book' super-category that included space opera as a sub-genre, one might say that. But it would be doing it a disservice, akin to lumping Westerns under War movies or some such, because one doesn't bother making the distinction between pistols in a town from artillery on a battlefield - if you see what I mean.
     
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    I may go look it up.
     
  18. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    Seriously?

    Well, I may have overrated it. Space cowboy movie.
     
  19. birch Valued Senior Member

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    okay but there is another movie called sunshine. this one was released in '07 and is by danny boyle.
     
  20. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Maybe I'm misconstruing your intentions.
    Are you looking to define its genre, or are you looking just to label it in a way that derisively dismisses it?
     
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  21. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    Heh, there may be more Terminator movies with more experiments in AI.
     
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    this is the scene i was looking for. absolutely gorgeous and peaceful.



    this film is akin to an existential epiphany as some of the scenes exude elegantly or even zen-like simplicity, the unassuming and unpretentious casual/natural yet contain in that depth. it just relays a sense of real human beings who happen to be on a fight to save the planet. the beauty is there is no hype. this film is special in that it shows the natural subtle shifts and nuances in emotions in weighty situations that call for you to draw on your inner reserves and be more contemplative/conscientious and not the overly done expressions in most films. there is a quietness to the film and you empathize.

    there are some great lines in it too: to create a star within a star.
     
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  23. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    OR I'm just calling a spade a spade. Are you one of the Protectors of the Jedi Religion?
     

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