You're right, it won't be equal to what it was. (It's always equal to itself. For it not ot be would be impossible.) But the reason it wont be equal to what it was it because it's no longer a sphere. A sphere can't be rotated in any manner that makes it look like it's no longer a sphere (you know what I mean). The way a sphere is defined makes it impossible.Originally posted by Elbaz
You're asking me if it's possible for A to not equal itself. I tell you, if you change the conditions of space in which A is rotated, then it won't really be equal to itself. Space is always changing and warping so to speak around us, but nobody notices anything.
No it doesn't. It applies to anything. Matter, space, logic itself, anything.The impossible impossible, applies to matter only.
What?! The object is changing itself to fit the space around it? What do you mean?When you rotate a sphere or anything like that, and ask me to make it not equal to itself, you're trying to force me into saying it's impossible. I tell you, it's not, since the space around the object is seperate of the object itself. By changing the positions of the concentric objects -- basically gravity (warping space), you're not directly changing the object, the object is changing itself to fit space around it. Therefore it is possible.
OK, if you're changing the space around it, and not the sphere itself, then the sphere hasn't changed so it's still the same. So it still rotates and appears to be a sphere... am I missing something?
Now that's a logical impossiblity. That's a paradox, and is by definition, impossible. The day when 1 = something other than one is the day I shoot myself in the head!Also, it is possible for an object to not be equal to itslef
Huh? You're right, it is contradictory, which is why it's impossible! You're not making sense! You're saying it's possible, then impossible! And how the heck do you figure it would make a singularity? Never mind....but that would form a singularity and the universe would collapse onto itself, right? You're in actual fact asking me to make something infinite (a singularity) in a finite universe, and that's contradictive.
Bingo! You can't! Which is exactly why some things in this universe are impossible, because some things are constants!So I ask you: How can I apply a contradictive problem to a theory that rests on universal constants?
Good. I welcome criticism as well. Constructive criticism is good.I'm not trying to refute anything. I opened up this thread in the first place as to refine my own understanding of the impossible impossible. You're criticism is actually welcomed by me.
Noting impossibilities?I'm not changing the problem at all, and only noting impossibilities as the apply to non-matter (universal framework).
I guess it's 'cause I wasn't around!Don't get me wrong, I welcome this criticism, I was kinda dissapointed when I opened up this thread and no one was picking on it like it's sister thread a year ago.![]()