The FDA cracks down on "jack3d"...a pre workout stimulant. Why?

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  1. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    That might be worse! Athletes frequently abuse their bodies worse than people who are trying to lose weight.

    Your choice. But I hope you are under a doctor's care. A GP, not a sports doctor!

    If you're a professional athlete, your whole life revolves around this, and your income depends on it, you might do a rational risk analysis and decide that this risk is worth it. But if this sport doesn't dominate your life, think it over.

    That said, who am I to talk? The lifelong caffeine addict. It has never caused me any physical grief, but the behavior modification from the psychological effect has ruined my life three times.
     
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  3. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    It's on the banned list for athletes.

    In the UK, just last week, two soldiers died while training on a fiercely hot day, possibly/probably from heart failure.
    No drugs involved, just a will to carry on beyond normal endurance levels.
    Unless people are monitored, they will sometimes kill themselves in pursuit of some goal.

    You can be sure that if there was a trace of any stimulant in their blood, it would be blamed on the stimulant.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23311587
     
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  5. wegs Matter & Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    No doubt about it. Never mind the conditions surrounding the death.
    Thing is...it's a strong supplement so if u take too much (three scoops or more in 24 hours) you're entering a danger zone.

    So here's something. I get this email from a friend who works in the health/supplement world and he tells me jack3d is going to be pulled yet again. Just ban it for good already. I find it odd these "recalls" and then it's back on the shelf.
     
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  7. wegs Matter & Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    hmmm...there's a story there. lol
     
  8. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    Complete waste of time banning it.
    They'll just tweak the molecule, and put it back on the shelf.
    The replacement may be worse than the original.
     
  9. wegs Matter & Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    the thing is...these are not bans. bans mean...done...finished.
    this is like a recall. lol
    *shrug*
     
  10. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    Maybe they are getting ready to release Jack4d
    a stronger and more addictive version.
     
  11. wegs Matter & Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    Lol can u imagine?
    You sir should be part of the supplement "think tank."
    That's a smashing idea...!
    (Quasi serious)

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  12. Syzygys As a mother, I am telling you Valued Senior Member

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    Maybe it is a sales trick. If you hear that your favorite product is going to be banned, what do you do? You stock up like crazy....
     
  13. wegs Matter & Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    haha now THAT i had not thought of. good point.

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    welp. i'm officially done with this product. finished it up today, before the gym...had a stellar workout. hit a squat PR. yay!
    BUT....really don't feel so good right now. jittery. and just ...idk...very strange.
    i'm truly done. i don't want to feel 'this' way.

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    thanks for helping me sort through it all.
    i think it's a GREAT product for improving performance at the gym, with your sport, etc.
    BUT, the key is moderation. when you start taking it every few days, it isn't a good thing.

    here's to health!

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  14. wegs Matter & Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    Lol @ "that reminds me"

    Silly prognosticator is silly.

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  15. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    Testosterone injections?
    Please!
    You should be ashamed of bringing that up here.

    No talk about such minor drugs.
    This is a thread for Jack addicts, their heartbroken families,
    their dealers, and concerned bystanders.
     
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  16. wegs Matter & Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, we're in mourning here. :/
     
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  17. Username Registered Senior Member

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    From what I have read and herd from others, people were using it incorrectly and not following the recommended dosing. I used jack3d and a lot of other people did too. I think its only harmful to those that don't know how to read or choose ignore dosing instructions. Same with any other type of drug. Anything done in large amounts isn't "good or healthy", and that can go for just about anything.
     

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