The Emergence of Crackpots from the SciForums Space-Time

Discussion in 'General Science & Technology' started by BenTheMan, Mar 17, 2007.

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  1. Singularity Banned Banned

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    Ophiolite rarely talks anything scientifically enlightening.
     
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  3. Read-Only Valued Senior Member

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    Perhaps because he wanted to spend his time and efforts on real research and dealing real problems instead of having to spin his wheels correcting the semi-educated?

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  5. Singularity Banned Banned

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    I am sure he will do that for a very very long time.
     
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  7. Farsight Valued Senior Member

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    Thanks ScottMana.

    And well said TW Scott. And you too Read-Only. Of course, in truth it's a bit of both. And Jeez, I sure am finding it tough trying to correct the semi-educated:

    See what I mean?
     
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  8. guthrie paradox generator Registered Senior Member

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    That depends if you want to know more about geology or not. Why don't you ask him a question about it next time.
     
  9. BenTheMan Dr. of Physics, Prof. of Love Valued Senior Member

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    I am quite fond of explaing things to laymen who wish to hear what I have to say. What I am not fond of is complete fools judging some part of science that they don't understand to be incomplete, and then explaining to ME why everything I have worked so hard to learn in the past few years is wrong.
     
  10. BenTheMan Dr. of Physics, Prof. of Love Valued Senior Member

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    Should we have a lesson in context?
     
  11. URI IMU Registered Senior Member

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    >> everything I have worked so hard to learn in the past few years is wrong.>>

    Well you (we) should get used to it.... its will all be wrong eventually !!!

    LOL, hey man that IS science
     
  12. BenTheMan Dr. of Physics, Prof. of Love Valued Senior Member

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    1.) This statement is patently false.
    2.) If it is wrong, I don't expect the proof to come from anyone here.
     
  13. Singularity Banned Banned

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    So he is a jobless crackpot who hits his noise where it doesnt belong , just to do his and our time waste.
     
  14. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

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    I'll second that!

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    I rarely see anything on these forums to be scientifically enlightening about!

    When someone comes here asking genuine questions I respond, if it is in a field I am familiar with, with what I aim to be an enlightening and perhaps even entertaining reply. Sadly there are far to few of these opportunities.

    When someone comes here with a 'theory' that explains how others are wrong and they have this wonderful new insight I will push, probe, ridicule and offend, (Yes, Farsight the bile is sincere, and the words were chosen with considerable care.) question, challenge, demand and excoriate, until the poster brings some scientific discipline to his utterances.

    I don't believe working from forty to sixty hours a week for a six figure salary constitutes being jobless, but what do I know? After all I can't even afford a plastic surgeon to give me a noise job!
     
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  15. Farsight Valued Senior Member

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    But what you won't actually do, is actually read what they're saying and engage them in rational open-minded dialogue or focus on the points of issue. Scientific discipline? Don't make me laugh. You belong in a medieval theocracy.
     
  16. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

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    Sounds good. Do they do virgin sacrifices? Could you send me an application form.

    Farsight, I have already explained that everything about your posts (and your pretensions) screams out at me pseudoscience. And you want me, despite all of my instincts in the matter, to actually waste time indulging you by reading your material? And then commenting on it critically, only to have you disregard my criticisms as irrelvant, narrowminded, lacking in insight, conservative, unimaginative, etc.
    OK. You've annoyed me sufficiently. I'll take your little speculations apart, but please have the good grace at the end of it all to admit publicly you were talking bollocks.
    Where should I begin?
     
  17. BenTheMan Dr. of Physics, Prof. of Love Valued Senior Member

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    If there was a rational discussion to be had, then I'm sure Ophiolite would love to engage. To often, however, people who come up with ways to change science as we know it haven't studied the problem in enough detail.

    This is the point of the thread: If you want a rational discussion about science, don't start by throwing out everything which has happened in the past 100 years. If you want to talk about science, you shouldn't confuse philosophy and pseudo-science with the real thing, and one shouldn't claim oneself an expert when this clearly isn't thecase.

    This is the inevitable attitude, borne from many discussions with people like Farsight, who refuse to believe that one could think critically about the issues and not come up with their conclusions.
     
  18. Farsight Valued Senior Member

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    Begin at RELATIVITY+. But follow the logic, not your instincts.

    You too Ben.
     
  19. BenTheMan Dr. of Physics, Prof. of Love Valued Senior Member

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    Must...keep....my...head...from....exploding
     
  20. MetaKron Registered Senior Member

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    Then why does he even participate in the conversations? Does being a real scientist require people to act like little children and disrupt the conversations of adults?
     
  21. Read-Only Valued Senior Member

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    To make an honest attempt now and then to get genuine information out to those who are intelligent enough to want to understand?
     
  22. MetaKron Registered Senior Member

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    YOU expect ME to believe that? Whoever hasn't seen it, click on Read-Only's name and read his first message.
     
  23. andrewgray Registered Senior Member

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    Ben,

    I must say that my engineer father has been clipping physics articles out of the literature and sending them to me in ridicule.

    For example, how about string theory? Do want to comment on that? I see that you have an interest in it.

    And how about this?

    philica.com/display_article.php?article_id=40

    (cut and paste into browser, as newbies cannot link)

    And how about that the universe is supposedly mostly gravitationally repulsive and is experiencing an accelerated expansion?

    One could argue that these are no better than the most common pseudoscience.


    Andrew A. Gray
     
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