The 'caring', 'sharing' war

Discussion in 'World Events' started by tablariddim, Oct 15, 2001.

  1. Markx Registered Senior Member

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    Curly,
    I agree with you. But there is a little problem. If we are going after terrorists it is great but are we sure that our Goverment won't abuse this right? Or and try to take advantage of the situation and why do we need to treat Saudis different? When it comes to any kind of Exteremism in religion either it is in Islam or Christianity, Judism or Hinduism. It is Dangerous thing.

    I think at this point Indians are leading the way. If you look at last 4 years of news from india. They have killed almost 40-60 Missionaries preaching Christianity and they were most of them their own country men. And they did burn Preachers from Australia and his whole family. Then comes Moslems, Constant killings of them and it all happened under the supervision of their goverment since they are extremist and they are in power. Then comes their own people since they have cast system if you are not a Higher class hindu they don't hesitate to killl you if you do any thing wrong. I don't know how the cast system exists that long but still. I think if the world have to wory about some ones nuclear assest that should be Indians since they will not hesitate to use it against their neighbours or even China.

    I understand our difference with East and Far east or middle east. But if you look majority is very moderate . Most people condemed the any kind of terrorism. Our goverment need to be catious since little mistakes can cause 3rd world war. I know at this point Brad can say ................"We will nuke them all". But I guess we all remember old saing " An eye for an eye will leave the whole world Blind". I think we need to learn how to tolorate at least in our Homeland. I have lots of friends not many Middle eastern but South east asian. Pakistanis or Bangladeshis etc and they seem to be very moderate all at some what happy on our Goverments decesions. But worry at the same time since they have been living here all their lives and now they are hearing that they need to go back to their homeland and get out of america etc etc. I am sure that our country is still the best country in the world and it is not anything else but the great people of USA who makes this country a great country. I can't see us becoming all crazy and fanatic of war in and out side our Home land. But agian I am strongly in favour of getting rid of Talibans asap and get this Guy OBL and finsih this story once and for all.
     
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  3. thecurly1 Registered Senior Member

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    We share the same sentiment Tiassa, the only thing is I'm afraid that the country could puss out of fighting any other country involved. We need a broader war, against Iraq and the other arms of terrorist networks, Al-queda and et cetra.
     
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  7. Brad Rules Registered Senior Member

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    Tiassa,

    Since you hate our country so much, why don't you leave? None of us will miss you, I will GUARANTEE you that. Spys, deserters, cowards and turncoats are generally never missed.

    Fact: Only one arab nation will accept palestinians into their country. That country is Jordan. The United States accepts Palestinians into our country (stupidly so in my opinion.) The rest of the arab nations are a bunch of hyprocrites.... crying crocodile tears for the palestinians and yet not allowing them into their own countries. Typical muslim love for ones neighbor.

    Fact: The Israelis treat the palestinians better than any other government in the Middle East treat their own muslim citizens.

    Both of these facts are indisputable.

    Game, set, match for Brad Rules. Someone here is not quite ready for prime time.
     
  8. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    Rabid, idiotic war pigs.

    Brad, maybe you'd better take your "facts" and figure out how the hell they justify the genocide you've been calling for.

    Answer the question if your alpha-maleness is capable: What greater love can a man show for his country than to betray the very thing about it that makes it worth loving?

    Why would you destroy freedom, Brad? Why would you aid and abet our terrorist foes in their quest to wreck freedom?

    What game are you playing, pocket-pool?

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  9. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    Bowser ...

    Cool article. Thanx much, sir ...

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  10. Brad Rules Registered Senior Member

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    Tiassa,

    I would never attack the freedoms America enjoys. I would only butcher those hide behind her freedom like the swill eating swine that they are.

    For example, the useless pieces of human excrement referenced in the attached article should all be killed or expelled. http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/10/28/inv.attacks.calls.reut/index.html

    Islam is a clear and present danger. More dangerous than Hitler by a country mile. It is a hateful, despicable religion practiced by a hateful, despicable race. (I must confess however that some of those Afghani women are pretty damn hot if you know what I mean!)
     
  11. Ana Registered Senior Member

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    Hmm....it does seem rather strange that extremist groups Afgahnistan would consider an attack during the Muslim holy month a slap in the face....since they themselves didn't stop their fighting (Northern Allience VS Taliban) in previous years during that month.

    It probably is more of a diplomacy thing so as to not piss off the rest of the Muslim community (in other countries)...I doubt we are worried about offending our attackers.

    I would venture that the Taliban forces would just use that extra time to do (chuckle) "damage control" or heck, do something...anything....they are crafty...to get us back somehow. But then again, I'm not a specialist in war tactics...so I can really say.

    Maybe to save face we might decide to not bomb for one or a few chosen days....I don't know...all I know is that you can't please everyone all the time.

    Would they stop fighting Israel on their holy days? Have they? I don't know. Would their "sleeping cells" refrain from attacking us during any of the holy days that are observed by all the varying religions represented in our country? Are we going to wait and see if they do so we can grant them the same consideration? Just things I ask myself....things I'll just have to trust our government to make the decision on.

    The humanitarian effort to drop food in the middle of our bombing seems rather weird...I know I wouldn't eat any food they dropped in the U.S. But then I'm not starving and feeding my dying baby sugared water, either.
     
  12. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    The heart of the matter?

    At least we know what's important to you, Brad.

    Seriously ... go buy some magazines, or turn your web attentions to the internet's fleshy offerings. But genocide for petty jealousy ... really, Brad, you're a laughable excuse for an Alpha Male. What, some sexual frustration and you're ready to blow up the world? Have you tried counseling for this dysfunciton? Maybe it's your approach. But it'll take some work to build up either integrity or charm, so you've got some long, ice-chewing nights ahead of you.

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  13. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    Ana,

    I believe they should continue the bombing through the muslim holiday season. If it draws more of 'em into the fight, we'll have that many more to bomb. The task is easier if we can draw the worst of them into one country.
     
  14. Brad Rules Registered Senior Member

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    Your villainous unprovoked assault on my manhood and my dignity has NOT succeeded. You and I both know that the reason you have stooped to such treacherous tactics is that I have completely obliterated all arguments you have posted to date. My knowledgable and informed posts have proven my points time and time again. You are now reduced to diversionary methods. That is sad. Make thoughtful counterpoints to my arguments or step aside and let the MEN discuss this issue.
     
  15. Markx Registered Senior Member

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    Hmmmm.............Interesting...........and I thought radicals and extremist were only in Islamic religion..... Good job.!!

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  16. Markx Registered Senior Member

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    Brad what are you???

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    . Why you keep trying to prove your man hood?? lol . You are a funny man or guy.

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  17. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    Let me know when the MEN show up

    Maybe, Brad Rules, you should stop hating people long enough to learn to read.

    Hell, when you express that the only reason not to kill someone is that you can f--k them, I think we all get the picture. Your flippancy toward human life is all the assault needed to expose the flaccid, desperate excuse you call manhood.

    After all, if you want thoughtful counterpoints, you should try having a thoughtful point. Genocide is idiocy, sir, and so is your libidinous bloodlust. I think you need to take some serious time out with a psychotherapist; think of it this way: you're a hypocrite at best, who expresses that we must achieve justice by suspending it, and who expresses that we must preserve freedom by destroying it; you have declared that we must win this war by surrendering it. Get your hateful self straight, man. Maybe then you'll have some manhood to worry about.

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  18. Ana Registered Senior Member

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    hehehe...

    I must admit....you all enjoy a wealth of vocabulary words....hehehe....
     
  19. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, they are much like a thesaurus.
     
  20. Brad Rules Registered Senior Member

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    Speaking of bigotry, why do you despise the Jews so much Tiassa?

    Why do you hate America?

    Why don't the Arab nations let the Palestinians into their countries?

    Why are over 90% of all of the worlds terrorists muslim?

    Why are the muslims the most violent faction in EVERY country in which they reside?

    Why are muslim regimes the most vicious institutions on earth?

    Why are muslims trying to take over the world?

    Why does every muslim institution and cleric preach hatred and genocide?

    Why do muslims teach their children to hate?

    Why do muslims treat their women like cattle?

    Why do muslims repay kindness and charity with murder and hate?

    Why does the koran espouse hatred, violence and war?

    Why are muslim people incapable of living in peace with their neighbors?

    Why are muslim people the most hateful, racist, bigoted people on earth?

    Why does Tiassa villify and ruthlessly attack Israel and America while gladly sucking the toe jam out of the toes of the terrorist palestinians?

    Why is Tiassa allowed to live within America when she very well could be a terrorist?
     
  21. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    Methinks you're taking this too personally, Brad

    Or it could be that it's just your way.
    Document that I do.
    Given that you've proposed the betrayal of justice, the corruption of freedom, and thus the surrender of liberty to the terrorists, I think it's up to you to document that I hate America.
    They're all great questions. But they're not exclusive to Muslims. Generally, I start with the notion of education and superstition: when not educated, a people rely on superstition. Superstitions, as we all know, create bad circumstances. But these are questions that have been hard to figure out largely because of the ongoing, escalating friction 'twixt cultures. Then again, if you don't know the answers to these questions, don't you think you ought to look into them at least a little before commencing with the genocide? But, as with the rest of the world, bombs will not bring answers to these questions. It's a learning experience, for everyone on the planet. It's not like humans arrived on the planet knowing how to do everything. But if you ask, for instance, why the Bible espouses hatred, violence, and war, you'll find some common ground to work from in order to answer your question about the Koran. If you ask how Christians came to be the most hateful, bigoted people on earth a few centuries ago, you might gain an insight into the common factors 'twixt the Bible and Koran. If you look at how the West has transcended the most blatant hatreds prescribed in the Bible, you might find some hint of what is necessary to tame the lethal aspects of Islam.
    It's not particularly established that I do. As I've noted, The reason why we have an enemy deserves at least as much consideration as how best to kill it. This concept seems difficult for you to understand, but that's okay since you're an alpha male and thus oriented toward comparison and domination. You'll figure it out eventually.
    You'd have to establish how I would be a terrorist. But the thing is, Brad, that if you get your way and clear out everyone who disagrees with you, the terrorists win. I don't understand what this obsession is that we must slay liberty and decency in order to defend them.

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  22. Markx Registered Senior Member

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    brad dude, take a chill pill and grow up. You are attacking poor girl or guy who ever that is. But you don't even know Quran and I am sure untill now you didn't even know that there is a religion called Islam. Now put your hatered aside and try to talk to some of these people I went to this open house in Centeral mosuqe in DC, Quran doesn't teach hate at all. None of the religions in the world teaches hate. It is people who thought evil and use people to carry out their agendas. Sorry to say this but you need lot more learning to do and lot more interaction with other races and black or white or brown they all are humans. I am glad we all don't think like you do. Other wise this world would be hell. Terrorists are nothing new if you know. IF you remember I am not even sure if you were born back then. there was as terrorists attack on US soil by this cult HariKrishna back probably 20 or 3 years ago. And it wasn't that lethal but sure did kill some. Talking about terrorists what about IRA?? Aren't they terrorists??? Don't we harbour them in New York and didn't they have rally's back in 80's to get donations to carry out their terrorists attacks in England?? You were probably too young to remember all that. Or maybe you don't want to think about it.

    Well lets a look, Hmm....didn't In europe there was a massive killing if some one wasn't catholic they killed them. back in from 11th till 15 or even 17 centruy Many died many, Read some history. Go to library or you have computer so read some about it. So what was going on in Ireland for years Catholic killing protestants and vice versa. Does it make Christianity terrorist religion??? NO. Hindus killings their own lo cast Hindus Do we call them terrorists religion??? NO!! Germany started two world wars to take over the world Do we call them Christian Killers?? or does it make christianity Terrorist religion since 90% of germans froces or their allies were christians.....NO!!!! We bombed Japs so save our people and it still doesn't make us Terrorists.Oh I am sorry it was war. !!!! I know you can say that. But I think you will never learn since you think there is nothing outside USA or outside your world should I say the world you live in. Hate Hate and more hate.

    I think muslim hate towards Israel is notthing more then Arafats agenda he is an ass and like his people to die. I say let Israel and Palistine be free. Both should have their own states so they can live in peace. For your questions regarding Islam Preaches hate. I think you have no Knowledge of any religion in the world. I have many muslim friends and I learned a lot from them to understand that it is nothing to do with hate or terrorism. Now you grow up or keep hating people. I only wish for you to be more open minded and accept the world reality that we cannot ignore 1.25 billion people. And we cannot hate them well you can but not all of us. Sorry.
     
  23. tablariddim forexU2 Valued Senior Member

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    RACIST BIGOT DROOLS

    Imagine if America was invaded by another greater power, who took away most of your human rights and freedom and you decided to join a clandestine group to fight them, what would you call yourself, a freedom fighter or a terrorist? And would the end justify the means?

    To the strong they are terrorists, to the weak they are freedom fighters, to the cynical they are the patsies, but without them, nothing gets done!

    Oh and since you like to pose difficult questions, tell me WHY the USA not only refused Britains request to intervene in Turkeys (Muslim) 1974 invasion of Cyprus (Christian), but also warned her not to do so either?
     

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