The barbaric Halal slaughter of animals

Discussion in 'Ethics, Morality, & Justice' started by Vega, Nov 4, 2009.

  1. Vega Banned Banned

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    Islamic Halal slaughter has increasingly come under attack from animal rights activists telling tales of barbaric blood-thirsty ritual slaughter.

    ...since the animal 'must' be conscious during its death, so that the 'animal spirit' can be drained from its body via its blood, therefore it cannot be cruel!

    Wonder why animals rights groups are up in arms about this!
    Who cares about animals anyway, they have no rights or a soul!!!!

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  3. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Does this mean I cannot boil crabs alive?
     
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  5. Grim_Reaper I Am Death Destroyer of Worlds Registered Senior Member

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    How do you know animals dont have a soul you cant even prove humans have one. I say use people in your ritual instead of animals as animals are far better in may ways then alot of people are.
     
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  7. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    So I should eat people? I don't think they will pass the health standards for consumption
     
  8. Grim_Reaper I Am Death Destroyer of Worlds Registered Senior Member

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    If you choose to eat people go ahead.
     
  9. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    No I'd rather eat animals. We're having goat lungs with dill tomorrow, yummy.
     
  10. wsionynw Master Queef Valued Senior Member

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    I'm trying fresh cat with some friends tomorrow night, first time for everything!
     
  11. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Is this the old one or the little one?
     
  12. wsionynw Master Queef Valued Senior Member

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    Huh?

    Never eaten cat before, someone I know got hold of it from a deli in London, fresh so I'm told.
     
  13. superstring01 Moderator

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    I love the slaughter of animals, just not the barbaric slaughter of them. At heart I'm a total vegan, but I'm totally addicted to meat and can't fathom giving up yummy, greasy hamburgers, heavenly bone marrow, delicious pâté, savory turkey or scrumptious sushi!

    I'm okay with my hypocrisy. I'll take it to the grave. I'll shed crocodile tears for every animal I consume, but soon get over it the next time my belly grumbles.

    ~String
     
  14. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Ah I thought it was one of your two. You have two cats n'est-ce pas?
     
  15. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    I read somewhere that scientific studies confirmed that Kosher or Halal butchering makes the animal feel pain, and that some butchers are now stunning the animals beforehand.
     
  16. wsionynw Master Queef Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah alright you busted me, I'll never eat cat or any other animal.
    My young cat is still fighting fit but the old one died a few months back. The wife to be is looking to take on another cat from the local cat rescue before xmas.

    Honestly, if you have a pet dog or cat or hamster that you love I'm sure you wouldn't eat dog, cat, etc. Strange then that so many people don't hestiate to eat other animals...but that is a whole other thread.

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  17. PsychoTropicPuppy Bittersweet life? Valued Senior Member

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    Biologically, a crab is nowhere near a cow.
     
  18. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Well when we had hens we switched with the neighbours because we didn't like eating our own. My cats enjoy all my meaty meals as much as I do. Sometimes, I have to fight them for it

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    {P.S. I never forget a cat person. Sorry for your loss, I recall the older cat didn't like the new entry much}

    So do the animals like the electric shocks better than having their throats slit?
     
  19. PsychoTropicPuppy Bittersweet life? Valued Senior Member

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    Can you really compare a short electric shock that's making you unconscious with bleeding to death? Yeah, well..try it S.A.M., and then tell us your findings.
     
  20. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    You ever seen a halal slaughter? I have in the backyard. Having your throat slits greatly limits your chances of maintaining blood pressure for longer than a couple of seconds. I'd say the electric shock is an unnecessary additional cause of pain. It can't be good for the meat either, probably uses up all the residual ATP in the muscle.

    I used a similar process [beheading] for rats. Sometimes we stuck a needle in the heart and took their blood all out first. This is considered humane by laboratory standards. And yeah, I've killed enough rats for lab use that I find such arguments for food specious.
     
  21. PsychoTropicPuppy Bittersweet life? Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, in docus.

    Ehm...so before beheading the rats you let them bleed out first? I'm not sure what you mean by putting a needle into their heart...I mean wouldn't that kill them right away when you pierce their heart?
     
  22. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Well mostly we just chopped their heads in a guillotine, sometimes, because death is a "stress" we stuck a hypodermic into their ventricles and extracted their blood before chopping off their heads.
     
  23. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    I think it's more of a bolt that's shot into their brain.
     

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