The Apollo Moon Missions Were Faked in a Studio

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    The evidence that the Apollo moon missions were faked in a studio is crushing. The US government can't censor the evidence that's on the internet but it can bury it with disinformation and obfuscation. If you enter "Apollo hoax" in Google, you'll find about fifteen pro-Apollo sites for every hoax site. I made a collection of some of the hoax evidence the government is trying to bury.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymwE1sNm82Y
    At the 2 minute 35 second mark of the video the flag is still. When the astronaut goes past it, it starts to move.

    (If that link is dead, do a YouTube search on "Apollo 15 flag waving")

    There's an analysis of that here in this three part series.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr76qSQ9ZQQ&feature=PlayList&p=41BF9062EF97A674&index=0&playnext=1

    More here...
    http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=MoonFaker: Flagging The Dead Horses&aq=f
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dW9qcL4LiUg

    Here's some more about flags moving the way they'd move in air while they were supposedly on the moon.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7yc2rVOs00
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    There's a noticeable difference in the body movements in these two clips.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdMvQTNLaUE
    http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/a11v.1101330.rm

    What I hypothesize is that a fifty percent slow-motion was used in Apollo 11 to simulate lunar gravity. Later, they improved their methods of simulating lunar gravity and started using a combination of slow-motion and support wires. The slow-motion in the later missions might not have been exactly half-speed. It might have been sixty five or seventy percent of natural speed. It looked better but it was inconsistent with Apollo 11 footage. The inconsistency is apparent.

    At around the 21 minute mark of this video the above footage from Apollo 11 can be seen played at double speed.
    http://video.google.es/videoplay?docid=4135126565081757736

    It can also be seen in this video at around the 30 minute 40 second mark.
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8455110982587487066#

    (The above video "A funny thing happened on the way to the moon" keeps going on and off-line. If the above link is dead, click here)
    http://video.google.es/videosearch?...to the moon&hl=es&emb=0&aq=1&oq=a funny thin#

    It looks just like movement in earth gravity.
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    When the footage from this clip is doubled, the movements look unnaturally fast.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdMvQTNLaUE

    Here it is doubled.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G29WT2_y1-E

    When the Apollo 11 footage is doubled, the movements look natural. This makes it very clear that they used a simple fifty percent slow-motion to simulate lunar gravity in Apollo 11 and a faster slow-motion (around 67 percent according to Jarrah White's calculations)...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MW31fOWzY-E

    ...combined with wire supports in the later missions.

    Here's some more evidence that they used wire supports to simulate lunar gravity.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23_QdAz2tfY
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    Watch how the corner of Collins' jacket moves in this clip.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fqdB1b53jc
    (00:52 time mark)

    (Here's the same footage in case the above video goes off-line)
    http://www.livevideo.com/video/7720A028ADB54169962B6961582AEC2F/apollo-xi-the-little-gem-par.aspx
    (4:10 time mark)

    It swings back and forth the way it would in gravity.
    Look at the corners of the jacket the woman astronaut is wearing in this clip.
    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=TejsnPThmd4
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&hl=uk&v=TejsnPThmd4

    Look at the way the straps move in real zero-gravity in this clip.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ofwzby1c7o
    (3:17 time mark)

    Collins' jacket corner moves the same way as the jacket corners do in this clip.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTNGNW5Evs4

    Obviously, that Apollo footage was taken in gravity here on earth.
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    There is no blast crater under the lander.
    http://thoughtworld.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/picture1.jpg

    That is discussed in this five part video series.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEQNZQdJFtI
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    Look at the size of the reflection of the sun in the astronaut's visor at the beginning of this video.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdMvQTNLaUE

    Now look at the reflection of the sun in the visor in the picture at the top of this page.
    http://www.sciencephotogallery.com/low.php?xp=media&xm=1694861

    It's pretty clear that the reflection in the Apollo astronaut's visor is that of a big light. Here's an article about that.
    http://www.aulis.com/sunsize.htm
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    At bottom of this page there's a picture of the astronaut's visor that has in it the reflection of what looks like some kind of studio light.
    http://www.aulis.com/jackstudies_9.html
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    The moon rocks are often presented as proof the missions were real. There are plausible explanations that would explain them.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSIlgQhUi9A
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AQQHTjeMkA
    http://www.geschichteinchronologie.ch/atmosphaerenfahrt/28_moon-stones-from-Earth-ENGL.html
    http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=MoonFaker: Moon Rocks Revisited&aq=f


    People say the Soviets would have snitched. There are explanations for that too:
    http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=moonfaker cold war&aq=f

    http://www.nardwuar.com/vs/bill_kaysing/index.html
    (excerpt)
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    Well, why did they keep faking the Apollo flights, I still don't understand. Did the Soviet Union know it was faked? Why did they keep shut up if they knew it was faked? 'Cause a lot of people would think they kept the moon race going to prove the U.S. was better than the Soviet Union. If the Soviet Union knew, why did they let the U.S. get away with this?
    Well, I'll tell you - at the highest levels there is a coalition between governments. In other words, the Soviets said, if you won't tell on us - and they faked most of their space exploration flights - we won't tell on you. It's as simple as that. See, what Apollo is, is the beginning of the end of the ability of the government to hoodwink and bamboozle and manipulate the people. More and more people are becoming aware in the U.S. that the government is totally and completely public enemy number one.
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    http://www.apfn.org/apfn/moon.htm
    (excerpt)
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    The Soviets, with their own competing moon program and an intense economic and political and military rivalry with the USA, could be expected to have cried foul if the USA tried to fake a Moon landing. Theorist Ralph Rene responds that shortly after the alleged Moon landings, the USA silently started shipping hundreds of thousands of tons of grain as humanitarian aid to the allegedly starving USSR. He views this as evidence of a cover-up, the grain being the price of silence. (The Soviet Union in fact had its own Moon program).
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    Noam Chomsky's analysis of the cold war-
    http://www3.niu.edu/~td0raf1/history468/apr2304.htm
    (excerpt)
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    On the domestic front, the Cold War helped the Soviet Union entrench its military-bureaucratic ruling class in power, and it gave the US a way to compel its population to subsidise high-tech industry. It isn't easy to sell all that to the domestic populations. The technique used was the old stand-by-fear of a great enemy.
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    It someone were to make a deathbed statement saying the moon missions were faked, the press would never report it as the press is controlled.
    http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Media/media_watch.html
    http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=chomsky media&aq=f
    http://www.youtube.com//watch?v=bbnxsPgcsH0

    Also, it would be downright dangerous for someone to come forward. Look what happened to these guys.
    http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfYBJFPuiwE
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipKyUVuQ2Uk

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    Here are some videos.

    http://es.youtube.com/results?search_query=moonfaker&search_type=&aq=f
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6MvcIs4OcQ
    http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=EQj-Mh__fRc
    http://www.thule.org/brains/moon.rm
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmIWhzTzLn0
    http://s125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/RackTheMouse/?action=view&current=Roverplantsreflector.mp4
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    What Happened on the Moon" (documentary)
    http://video.google.es/videosearch?...ppened on the moon&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wv#
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    Was it Only a Paper Moon? (documentary)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2rfsy3Sd0c
    (8 parts)

    Here are some articles.

    http://www.nardwuar.com/vs/bill_kaysing/
    http://www.apfn.org/apfn/moon.htm
    http://www.aulis.com/skeleton.html
    http://erichufschmid.net/Interview-with-Bart-Sibrel.html
    http://www.geocities.com/apollotruth/
    http://www.aulis.com/investigation.htm
    http://www.reddit.com/domain/northerntruthseeker.blogspot.com
    http://northerntruthseeker.blogspot.com/2008/11/project-apollo-what-were-they-thinking_24.html
    http://www.ufos-aliens.co.uk/cosmicapollo.html
    http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Moon_Hoax
    http://www.erichufschmid.net/Apollo_NASA.html
    http://www.davesweb.cnchost.com/index.html
    (Wagging the Moondoggie)

    The astronauts look pretty nervous at the press conference.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RcKLAo62Ro

    Here's a link to the entire conference.
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1535324572487804641

    This keeps going on and offline so if this link is dead, try googling "Apollo 11 press conference".

    Their behavior look pretty suspicious here too. It begins in the second half of the video.
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2265515730495966561


    The main reason they had to fake it was probably space radiation. Here are some articles and videos I've found on the subject.

    http://www.geocities.com/apollotruth/
    (excerpt)
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    There is an old saying that "A liar needs a good memory". Nowhere is this more true than in the Apollo program. NASA tell lies to cover up previous lies, and other discrepancies uncovered by people investigating the Moon landings. Altering previous data, removing photographs, and retracting statements made, only re-enforces the evidence that NASA are on the run, and being forced into a corner to which they cannot escape. The actions of those under investigation makes the investigator more aware they are bluffing. The longer that person, or persons, who make the extravagant claims continue, the more lies they have to tell in order to counteract it, until it reaches the point where it becomes ridiculous. That point was passed in July 1999, when NASA officials were questioned about the Moon landings on television. They dodged the all important questions like a drifter dodges the heat.
    Many Apollo astronauts have long since died, as to have many of the original NASA officials involved in the scam, consequently current officials, who know that Apollo was a fake, have not quite got it right when talking openly in public. Perhaps the biggest slip of the tongue was made by NASA Chief Dan Goldin when interviewed by UK TV journalist Sheena McDonald in 1994. He said that mankind cannot venture beyond Earth orbit, 250 miles into space, until they can find a way to overcome the dangers of cosmic radiation. He must have forgot that they supposedly sent 27 astronauts 250,000 miles outside Earth orbit 36 years earlier.
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    two sets of radiation data
    http://hey_223.tripod.com/bulldoglebeautaketooooo/id82.html
    (excerpt)
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    To prove his thesis, Rene tries to get certain solar data from NATIONAL
    OCEANIC & ATMOSPHERIC ADMINISTRATION, (NOAA) using clever techniques
    to
    disguise his true intentions, [i.e. to get true data on solar flares.] NOAA,
    unfortunately, proved to be as cagey as Rene in dodging the giving out of any
    really good DETAILS on this matter, [you know, where the devil resides.]
    Rene, seeing games being played, deduced that there must be two sets of data,
    one which is sent to scientists on the preferred list, and one sent to the
    likes of Rene as casual strangers. (p.125)
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    http://ocii.com/~dpwozney/apollo5.htm
    http://www.erichufschmid.net/MoreInfoForScienceChallenge.html
    http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=9659&hl=apollo

    These two are important
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    http://www.buzzcreek.com/grade-a/MOON/articles1.htm
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2rotplZn0g
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKB5u_VTt6M
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcytzf7PkRA
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6DhY1NvmIc
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1ltWMbHdDU
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnckudD9oa8
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiTzo3G_hvo
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFiIR7hA1rM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toI1Xw9paW4
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xlKooAbKpM
    (23 parts)

    The Chinese space walks were obviously faked in a water tank and NASA's official position is that the Chinese space walks were real.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBL98p0wZ7g
    http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=NVbBFwdmldA
    http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=kG4Z_r38ZDE
    http://en.epochtimes.com/n2/content/view/5809/
    http://en.epochtimes.com/n2/content/view/8332/

    The pro-Apollo posters at the forums of both the "Clavius" and "Bad Astronomy" websites tap danced around the evidence that the Chinese space walk was faked because they have to agree with the official US government version and they can't say it was faked without looking silly. Here are the threads. They're hilarious.

    http://www.bautforum.com/showthread.php/87594-Chinese-space-walk-conspiracy
    http://apollohoax.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=othertheories&action=display&thread=2206

    They pretty much destroyed the credibility of those two sites when they didn't seriously address the evidence.
    http://www.opposingdigits.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1222

    It's pretty clear that they're government damage-control sites.

    Here's some good research if anyone wants to delve further.
    http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/single/?p=48603&t=51606

    Here's some more stuff on Clavius and Bad Astronomy and Jay Windley.
    http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=125628

    (this explains who Jay Windley is
    http://www.clavius.org/about.html)
     
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  3. FatFreddy Registered Senior Member

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    People say that scientists would have spoken out, etc. Here's some info on why a scientist would have a hard time making his or her opinion known. The media are owned and that includes science journals.
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    At about the 30 minute mark of this video a scientist says that science fraud is common.
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3626298989248030643#

    Scientists at the Rand Corporation say that depleted uranium is safe.
    http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/docs/b04151999_bt170-99.htm

    There are other scientists who say the opposite.
    http://www.google.es/search?q=depleted uranium&tbs=vid:1

    It's clear that the government can find scientists willing to sell out and lie.

    Here's a scientists who say that it's impossible to get something published in a science journal if it goes against the official version.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bAE7FGdNmA
    (00:16 time mark)

    This means that if there's a scientist who thinks they never went to the moon, he'd have a hard time getting his opinion known.

    If someone tried to blow the whistle, the press would ignore him or her.
    http://www.thismodernworld.org/arc/1993/93short-attention-span.gif
    http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=chomsky media&aq=f
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=ES&hl=es&v=Wi5h3vZl6uo
    http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=William Schaap - The Media, CIA, FBI & Disinfo. &aq=f
    http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Media/MediaControl_Chomsky.html
    http://www.chomsky.info/articles/199710--.htm
    http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Media/media_watch.html
    http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Propaganda/Propaganda_page.html
    http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Media_control_propaganda/Media_Control.html
    http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/official_culture.htm
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=ES&hl=es&v=trWcqxrQgcc
    http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Herman /Propaganda_System_One.html

    Here's some evidence that it might even be downright dangerous to try to come forward with the truth.
    http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfYBJFPuiwE
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipKyUVuQ2Uk
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvay28lZiHU

    We are lied to about history.
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=145531

    http://theconspiracyzone.podcastpeople.com/posts/28159
    (excerpts)
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    Q: Why do prominent astronomers like Sir Bernard Lovell and Patrick Moore support the Moon landings if they were faked?

    A: Scientists and astronomers around the globe know full well that the Moon missions were faked, but rely on NASA to gain access to the vital data beamed back to Earth from the Hubble space telescope. They cannot slag off NASA otherwise NASA would deprive them of this essential information, which they so much require.
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    Q: What about the vast number of people involved in Apollo, wouldn’t someone have spoken out.

    A: Pan’s claim there were half a million people involved in the Apollo program, but that includes all the humble engineers working on machine parts in many companies around the globe. So if someone is making a part in some engineering factory in Seattle, and his boss tells him it’s for the Apollo spacecraft, is that engineer proof the landings took place? No of course it is not proof, and even if that engineer knew they never made it to the Moon, he would still brag to his friends that he made a part that went to the Moon just to make him feel proud in some way or other. Parts for the Apollo program were made at many different factories around the globe. For example the laser reflector supposedly left on the Moon was manufactured in France. NASA collected the unit from the French company, and that was the last they saw of it. It’s probably stashed away in some archive at Langley, but one things for certain it’s not on the Moon. Are those French engineers proof they landed on the Moon? No of course not, as very few, (probably less than 200 people), were actually involved in bringing the whole lot together, so as to minimize what was actually taking place. No need for any of them to speak out because (A) They are 100% patriotic to the USA, and would say nothing that would go against America, even if it were true. (B) They do not need millions of dollars to safeguard their future, as they have already received substantial amounts from NASA just to “keep mum”. Read comments from people who worked on the Apollo program in the APOLLO FEEDBACK section.
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  5. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    No they weren't.

    Only if you're completely clueless.

    Start here (and continue by getting a clue and an education).

    Cesspool please mods.
     
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  7. FatFreddy Registered Senior Member

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    There is even evidence that NASA has been faking some of its spacewalks.
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    In these two videos what looks like air bubbles can be seen rising.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38ynHKGzplQ
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GO1cWhD_6Nw

    Go down about a third of the way in this link...
    http://ocii.com/~dpwozney/apollo3.htm

    ...to where it says, "APOLLO 9: Dave scott performs Extra Vehicular Activities LAVA # : LV-1998-00030.mov
    The astronaut is unusually flexible compared to today's shuttle astronauts on EVAs; the Apollo suit does not appear to have bearings at the joints like the space shuttle extra vehicular suits. The experimental thermal samples flutter and follow non-linear curved paths, as if under the influence of or affected by atmospheric drag and turbulence.

    That looks pretty suspicious.

    I've seen long footage of zero-gravity so I don't doubt that they've acually made it into low earth orbit. Maybe they're faking some of this stuff to save money. I wonder if they fake space walks because of micro-meteorites.

    The Chinese obviously faked their spacewalk...
    http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=NVbBFwdmldA
    http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=kG4Z_r38ZDE
    http://www.aulis.com/cctv_discrepancies.htm
    http://en.epochtimes.com/n2/content/view/5809/
    http://en.epochtimes.com/n2/content/view/8332/

    ...and the official NASA version is that the Chinese space walk was real so NASA has no credibility.

    Jarrah White discusses a possible fake spacewalk in this video at the 4:45 time mark.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNP828YIUQo

    He discusses another one in this video at the 7:45 time mark.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U-NGXBIaaA

    It looks like the Soviets may have been doing some faking too.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dPIBSkYO-U

    This continues into part 11.

    I watched the whole thing a year or so ago and there is more stuff scattered throughout the series about fakery in earth orbit. I wish I'd saved the time marks.

    I'm also wondering about the Mars missions.
    http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=marsfaker&aq=f
     
  8. adoucette Caca Occurs Valued Senior Member

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    Total BS

    According to you, thousands of people must have been actively "in on it" for this to occur, and most of them wouldn't have been NASA astronauts, but advanced film production people, set creators etc etc, and they supposedly accomplished back then what Hollywood still can't do convincingly today and yet over this whole time none of them have dared speak of it.

    Your analysis is not credible in the least.
     
  9. FatFreddy Registered Senior Member

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    Let's hear the analyses of the pro-Apollo people of this anomaly.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fqdB1b53jc
    (00:52 time mark)

    The corner of Collins' jacket swings back and forth the way it would in gravity. When he's not jogging in place, the corner goes to a hanging position.

    Collins' jacket corner moves the same way as the jacket corners do in this clip.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTNGNW5Evs4


    The straps in this clip have no tendency to go downward the way Collins' jacket corner does.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ofwzby1c7o
    (3:17 time mark)

    Watch just before she starts jogging in place. The straps have no tendency to hang the way Collins' jacket corner does.

    This clip makes it pretty clear.
    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=TejsnPThmd4
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&hl=uk&v=TejsnPThmd4

    The corners of her jacket have no tendency to go downward.

    Collins was in strong gravity when that footage was taken. They were supposed to be halfway to the moon.
     
  10. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    I take it you've never heard of "inertia".
    Fail. Again.
     
  11. FatFreddy Registered Senior Member

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    You don't seem to have read post #2.

    This site is just government damage-control.
    http://www.sciforums.com/encyclopedia/Moon_landing_conspiracy

    The government has hired professional sophists to try to obfuscate the hoax evidence. There are several pieces of evidence that are so clear that sophistry is ineffective. One is the anomaly of the swinging jacket corner which is in my last post.

    Another one is the way the flag comes to a stop just the way it would in air as proved by the experiment in Mythbusters.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7yc2rVOs00

    Another is the way the flag moves without being touched in this clip.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymwE1sNm82Y

    This video shows that is wasn't a film anomaly.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFMpmjEv9o0

    This video shows that it started moving before he got close enough to touch it.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dW9qcL4LiUg

    The movement is perfectly consistent with the atmosphere explanation.
     
  12. FatFreddy Registered Senior Member

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    This is a very vague response that says nothing.

    The corner goes up, stops, and goes back down. The only identifiable force making it go back down is gravity.

    I was able to exactly duplicate the movememt of Collins' jacket corner by hanging a loose jacket on a coathanger and bouncing it up and down.
     
  13. adoucette Caca Occurs Valued Senior Member

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    I did.

    But I'm also aware of all the people who would have to be "in on it" for it to be fake and that kind of vast conspiracy is simply not possible.

    In any case, have fun with your obvious paranoid fantasy.
     
  14. adoucette Caca Occurs Valued Senior Member

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    http://dekerivers.wordpress.com/200...ssions-on-moon-spotted-by-current-spacecraft/

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Challenger_4x.png

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Apollo14LRO2.png

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_landing_conspiracy_theories
     
    Last edited: Aug 29, 2011
  15. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Please, you must make a better effort at concealing your ignorance than that.

    Wrong: inertia.

    Did you try it in zero-g?
     
  16. MacGyver1968 Fixin' Shit that Ain't Broke Valued Senior Member

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    Ahh...the calling card of the paranoid. Take your meds.
     
  17. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    there is one sure fire way to prove we didn't go to the moon.
    fatfreddy never provided it.
     
  18. FatFreddy Registered Senior Member

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    This doesn't make the clear evidence of a hoax go away. There are plausible scenarios that would explain how they did it. One is that most of the people were probably working in their own compartments of the program and weren't in a position to know if the whole thing would work.

    I'll post that part again.
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    http://theconspiracyzone.podcastpeople.com/posts/28159
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    Q: What about the vast number of people involved in Apollo, wouldn’t someone have spoken out.

    A: Pan’s claim there were half a million people involved in the Apollo program, but that includes all the humble engineers working on machine parts in many companies around the globe. So if someone is making a part in some engineering factory in Seattle, and his boss tells him it’s for the Apollo spacecraft, is that engineer proof the landings took place? No of course it is not proof, and even if that engineer knew they never made it to the Moon, he would still brag to his friends that he made a part that went to the Moon just to make him feel proud in some way or other. Parts for the Apollo program were made at many different factories around the globe. For example the laser reflector supposedly left on the Moon was manufactured in France. NASA collected the unit from the French company, and that was the last they saw of it. It’s probably stashed away in some archive at Langley, but one things for certain it’s not on the Moon. Are those French engineers proof they landed on the Moon? No of course not, as very few, (probably less than 200 people), were actually involved in bringing the whole lot together, so as to minimize what was actually taking place. No need for any of them to speak out because (A) They are 100% patriotic to the USA, and would say nothing that would go against America, even if it were true. (B) They do not need millions of dollars to safeguard their future, as they have already received substantial amounts from NASA just to “keep mum”. Read comments from people who worked on the Apollo program in the APOLLO FEEDBACK section.
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    Q: Why do prominent astronomers like Sir Bernard Lovell and Patrick Moore support the Moon landings if they were faked?

    A: Scientists and astronomers around the globe know full well that the Moon missions were faked, but rely on NASA to gain access to the vital data beamed back to Earth from the Hubble space telescope. They cannot slag off NASA otherwise NASA would deprive them of this essential information, which they so much require.
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    The anomalies in the footage prove the hoax. We don't know all of the details on how they faked it but our not knowing them doesn't make the anomalies go away.
     
  19. adoucette Caca Occurs Valued Senior Member

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    We DID go to the moon.
    Claiming we didn't is lunacy.
     
  20. MacGyver1968 Fixin' Shit that Ain't Broke Valued Senior Member

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    FatFreddy/David C. is a serial spammer who posts wall-o-youtube links to any board he can find.

    Cesspool.
     
  21. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    why are you telling me this?
    i am not the one saying we didn't.
     
  22. FatFreddy Registered Senior Member

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    Inertia is when something continues moving unless something stops it. The force that stops something from moving in its direction is not called inertia.

    Please be a little clearer. You seem to be calling the force that stops the jacket corner from going upward and making it go back down "Inertia".
     
  23. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    What's this "we" crap?
    I didn't go to the Moon.
    I was someonewhere else at the time and I have witnesses.
    You'll never pin it on me copper!
     
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