Yes I have, and I'm not taking away from the brutality of rugby. Rugby is a great sport. I have a lot of respect for it, but to call rugby, American football for pussies is BULLSHIT! There are quite a few issues with football players getting concussions (with pads on mind you). Football players also play with broken fingers, hands, arms. Players, like Steve McNair, have played with broken sternums. And regardless of whether or not players get their ears torn off or not, I'd still like to see how long a pro rugby player lasts in the NFL. Wearing no pads isn't a sign of toughness, it's a sign of stupidity; much like a stupid person will ride a motorcycle w/o a helmet. :bugeye: NHL players wear helmets and pads, and they still get teeth knocked out.