Taqiyya - The Obligation to Lie

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  1. Zakariya04 and it was Valued Senior Member

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    no i wish - i am a cretin on the keyboard and have as much skill in typing as a severly overweight elephant has in swimming!!!
     
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  3. Zakariya04 and it was Valued Senior Member

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    LOL

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  5. greenberg until the end of the world Registered Senior Member

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    Where is he now? Is he dissimulating?
     
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  7. sowhatifit'sdark Valued Senior Member

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    Seriously - alright, tongue slightly in cheek, but only slightly - if you attack something/someone and it turns out the attack was invalid, not well thought through, weak
    does one have an obligation to clean up?
    Or to put it another way, is silence in face of good solid rebuffs a kind of lie?
    Can it be equivalent to 'nothing happened' kinds of denial?
     
  8. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    I've yet to see a response here worthy of response.
     
  9. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    (Q):

    Do you think he lied because he is Muslim?
     
  10. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Yes. As general an answer as is bestowed the question.
     
  11. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Just let me get this straight, (Q). Are you claiming that all Muslims are liars?

    If so, I think you need to get some perspective.
     
  12. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    You see James, that's what happens when you toss out a generalized question, you'll get a generalized response.

    Don't take lessons from Sam by throwing words in my mouth and jumping to erroneous conclusions.

    Taqiyya is an obligation from Islam to lie. Under the prescribed conditions, all Muslims are obligated to lie.

    It's the conditions and the abuse thereof that are in question, and the fact that religion should have no say in this matter, just like it should not have a say in punishments, honor killings and going to war.
     
  13. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Where is taqiyya mentioned in the Quran?
     
  14. FelixC Registered Senior Member

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    swiid: it would be interesting in how many other areas Islam has flexibility in

    because now that we are a few days from 9/11, I was remembering my initial thoughts of that event

    I've always thought that those 19 guys had balls of steel to fly them into the WTC, my initial reaction was anger, dread (because of possibly more danger), fear, revenge, I wanted to join, but my Dad, Mom & uncles talked me out of it. We had 3 relatives that were ex-GI's & 2 active at that time. Only 1 is still in, he has been in Okinawa for 4 years, don't know how that works, since I thought they would rotate him into Iraq by now. anyway, I'm glad he's ok. anyway, enoough about me, back to subject at hand

    how could having 70 virgins waiting for you pay for killing 3,000 innocent people?
     

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