Students to be taught there isn't a God

These fanatical atheists are trying to impose their will on everyone, they are calling people on to their path and condemning all non-believers into the eternal wilderness. Sounds a lot like ‘religion’ to me…

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Curiously, what gets me is that all these evidence oriented people ignore the very valid evidence that evolution selects against atheism as a viable system for humans.

 

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So, are you saying religion is old fashioned? ...Obsolete? ...Like burning witches?

 

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So evolution favors the obsolete?

 

Just look at how many great civilizations on Earth established a colony on Mars. How many were religious? Zero, null, nada, none.

You are ignoring the fact that widespread secularism is younger than the ages of nation-building. Even with this going against it, the United States was founded by skeptics.

 

How does a civilization get great? Perhaps by using religion to justify eliminating rivals? Maybe atheists are too nice.

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M*W: Religions are competitive by their very design. Atheism doesn't share that albatross.

 

When you study a civilisation, you essentially study its religion. Remove the religion from the equation and what do you have left? Nothing really. The root of culture is cult.

 

It might be more accurate to say that monotheistic religions are competitive by their very design.

Polytheistic cultures tend to less-aggressively adapt their pantheon to those of neighbors, traders, and conquerors. When you already have hundreds of gods, adding a few more or combining the traits of new ones into your old, is not a threat to the structure.

Monotheism is inherently violent. It promotes reactionary wrath to any other claim of a higher being (including science, or a claim for lack of a being).

The militant on this forum are almost always the monotheists or the cultish pseudo-scientists who have replaced god with the scientific method because they didn't take the time to rid themselves of superstition.

 

Thats what the evidence says, not I. Or do we only believe in such kind of evidence when it is about theists?

You did read the OP, right? Did you note how misrepresenting the topic in the title and OP was never a big enough deal to lead to accusations of manipulation or manufactured contrivance?

 

i doubt that has anything to do with it. suicide is due to mental illness and sometimes it is better to hide or sometimes, perhaps, it is less detectable. whereas being ill in thos way would be overlooked or undiagnosed.

 

I think there is a relationship between atheism and suicide. For various reasons, which are discussed in my Camus thread ages ago.

But I was talking about the there isn't a God vs there is no evidence for God disconnect. Such nitpicking only seems mandatory for theists.

 

I think a child brought up athiest is more likely to choose suicide as a viable option to problem resolution. The ideation has no wrongdoing attached to it.

Something like this would never happen in a religious society

 

Its a trend across societies Korea, Singapore, Hong Kong, Europe and even in the US. So ignoring it is not going to make it go away. Its something that will have to be tackled, at any rate.

 

Your quote is misleading. It says that Japan has no religion that opposes suicide, not that Japan has no religion. Your false assumption is that all religions oppose suicide, and they don't. Even Islam has led to suicide bombers with a religious motivation.

 

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M*W: What do you consider a "fanatical atheist?" The reason I ask is not only for your opinion but to qualify the general consensus on why theists believe atheists are fanatical?

My point is that atheists don't have a church to go to, and we don't have dogma except for the one common disbelief in deities and the supernatural.

There is no way I could say to you or to anyone else, "come, follow me and you will be saved." For an atheist, that is ridiculous.

Atheists are not lawmakers, so we do not force anyone to do anything against their will. However, we have a voice, just as you do, to inform our legislators what we believe to be the truth and how those truths would be good for society. Should they enact laws that are in favor of the atheistic viewpoint, it is because your beliefs are not keeping up with the times nor with human needs.

I had a strange experience recently at a bookstore. Something I actually never do is read about atheism. I read mostly about christianity. So I decided to broaden my view on atheism, and I selected several books from the philosophy section on atheism to read. A young black woman came and sat down next to me. I noticed after a while that she was staring and scowling at me. She sat there for a while doing this. I got to thinking that this was some kind of unspoken message she was communicating to me, so I observed without any response on my part. I just kept reading and watching inconspicuously. She was reading romance novels BTW. I noticed that she was getting steamed, but not in a romantic way. I looked up and broadly smiled at her. It freaked her out so much that she threw three romance novels at me and knocked over my coffee. Then she literally bolted from her chair and walked as fast as she could to get out of the store! Now, tell me, how did I in any way force my belief on this woman?