Star Wars vs Star Trek

i can't say if Kitt's numbers are true, but star bases are local resupply and maintenace centers for all ships in their respected sectors so they are well stocked up on torpedoes. there are probably at least a dozen thousands toprs just for the ship's they are supposed to service an any and all given time. but how many launchers and torps they have for their own deffence? i think we can only estemate.

hot women in sf? well in ST, there are few and even then i usually don't like them. 7 was clearly ment to be "hot", but she's not my type. dax (Farell) in DS9 was/is my favorate, but then how many sf characters were acted by former succesful models? i like PAdme in SW, but then i really like Portman. Lexa Doig is also nice. Farscape had one peace keeper undercover agent in the episode with the scarrans and that independant colony. now she shares the no1 spot with Dax in my book :
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/farscape/images/f/f7/Jenavianchatto_001.jpg

 

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Is that the episode where Crighton i gets married and then turned into stone?
that peacekeaper had some awesome combat moves lol

 

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yup, that's the one and i'd be more then happy if she'd practice those moves on me

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I'd imagine the more stuff you need to protect, the better the defenses should be.

Hmm the Portman babe, beautiful.
Lexa Doig is beautiful too.
Jadzia Dax definately ranks in the all-time favs.

Jeri Ryan suits her character and is lovely, but also not my type, but the Character 'Seven' is what I find really appealing. Jadzia also. I don't know enough about many other characters to know if they have accumulated more than a typical humanoid's lifetime of experience, like Seven and Dax.

While googling around, I stumbled onto these gals from Galactica. Not bad.

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But which of these have potential to play a key role in a vs battle? I know Kes and Seven, and the Q women are definately deadly. I don't think it would come down to hand to hand combat but if it did, we can get Jadzia in there for sure.

 

lmao i know where u coming from lol.

How about Charlize Theron in Aeon Flux :worship:

 

Oh hell yeah, for the win. Combat skills o-plenty! lol

 

and just think,i am yet to see the whole movie (somehow i always miss the first 20-25 min)
but aside form that, i vote yey! Charlize is one of my first crushes lol

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I can believe they stock that amount of torps but was wondering about the method of stocking. (I'm a loogistic manager of a huge warehouse lets call it professional addiction lol).

The dish like part of the starbase is 3,8km wide and overall 5,4km tall.
Now we can asume that the powercore of the station takes a fare amount place.
Then there are +100,000 sentient beings onboard. but then you still have docking bays, shuttles, I imagine a few holodecks and inviromental places for specific races, detention cells,

so lets asume that all of the above is in the top part of the starbase. this leaves you the small cilinder like part. Where the hell do you stock 50,000 torps. Keeping in mind that you have consider sabotage so you can't really put them all together.

So that's why i believe that they store the matter/antimatter payloads.
When ships come in to reload they just replicate the torps and mount the payloads in them.
But that is my opinion.

 

If you have a problem you can bring it personally in a PM instead of trying to publically embarrass somebody. Then you can first ask why so you might understand a reason, and then you can tell me to keep personal shit off the forums, or... you can just stay out of it. Either way, you've now resorted to using the same shit you suggest not doing. How is it okay for you to do it, and where do we limit name calling? Oh, its okay for you to do it when its personal, but not anyone else?

Oh, and I've posted a much nastier version of this earlier, but thought I'd be the bigger man and refrain from the impulsive responses I let slide earlier with Prophet. However, and exactly as I did with him, I'll only take the time to 'nice-up' so many. But you should know this by how I nicely asked you to please kill that modern sub and battleship session you had with fedr808.

Is there really a button? See, I don't know if you just made that up or what. Now I think you were bullshitting because if there is, you'd have used it, right? Or maybe not since you seem to love feeding into off topic conversation. :shrug:

 

Yes i saw it

but you must bare in mind that Shinzon wanted picard alive for his blood.
so we can asume those torps where at a low yield. If six torps can take out you warpcore six more full yield torps should be enough to blow you to smitariens.

 

Infact this is something not to take lightly. I'm not talking about on-screen stuff of Stargate but rather of the potential. Don't forget in later episode they added a chifron so they could open gates into another universe.
I mean in ST or SW they don't leave there own galaxie (except Wesley as someone mentioned to me travelled to Andromeda Galaxy once) but think of the potential travelling to other galaxies and meanting races far more advanced.

 

i only know one canon fact about storage of torpedoes and that is that they are kept unarmed (no warhead) so as to explain why the whole ship does not gets turned into stardust when the torpedo bay is hit. unfortunately there is no canon mentioning of the arming/loading mechanism imployed. some speculate that the torpedo casing is just the delivery method and that anti-matter is injected during launch from the ship's own supply while others claim it is inserted in some form of containers before launch by the loading crew/mechanism.

as to the total amount of casing/warhead ammount i went for about 12000 torpedoes based on my own estemates. if a GCS has some 250-300 torpedoes when fully loaded and the Constitution refit nad at least 150 (not sure about that, i'll have to check) then the number of torpedoes a Star Base should have at all times in reserve should equal for at least on full resupply of all the ships that operate in its sector under normal circumstances. if the average torpedo load for a ship is 200 torpedoes (more for torpedo based platforms (like Akira, Nebula) less for light cruisers, escorts (Defiant, Intrepid); and the average number of ships per sector is 40-100 (roughly guessed from the number of ships they usually muster in a hurry or operate together in war), in this case i went for 60 then an average star base should be able to provide some 10000-15000 torpedoes for those ships. some stations are obviously bigger (like SB74), some are smaller and this probably signifies the amount of ships that falls under their care.

how are they stored? the photon torpedo casing is 210 cm long and 76 x 45 cm across. that means to store 1000 of those in a 10x10x10 packs you'd need a container the size of 21x7.6x4.5 meters. if torpedo transfer is performed by cargo transporters then there is in fact lots of space for storage. i'm sure that even some larger ships if modified with lots of empty space could have enough internal volume for more then 15 such container rooms. what i am more concerned with is the warhead storage if that is the method of providing antimatter ammo.

 

unlike Kitt i have a different theory that both the blue and the green blobs are disruptors. blue are light-medium guns and green are heavy. i don't see why disruptors can't be fired in warp when phasers can. i base this on the fact that later on when Shinzon gets mad and uses all weapons against E-E there is burst of yellowish dot-like objects that hit the E's bridge and cause a red shirt to do some space walking without am EVA suit

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why should they have to store casings ? they could just replicate them.
as a torps propultion and payload uses the matter/antimatter they put in them. and i surely agree with your concernes about the warhead storage.

 

no, that was my reply to the implication that SW officers are somehow competant *cough*

 

Ive been here a while and no one has claimed even more than 10000 ships for the feds, i think that probly came from the SW side that claims they have eleventy billion ships.

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You actually gave a pretty ignenious solution to the problem, id have no doubt agreeing with you, plus, itd also increase the lifespan of the individual non antimatter parts in the torpedo, you probly dont want a 5 year old torpedo being used in battle.

 

I would assume they have at least 5,000 ready to go, with the rest ready to be replicated on a moments notice, with storage space for 50k all said and done. I know the Galaxy can store a few hundred on board, but can replicate over a thousand.

 

http://www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/starbase-79-blueprints.php

That's a blueprint of Starbase 79 - it's the upgraded variant of Starbase 1. These are all taken from LCARS shots shown on screen at one time or another, with a little supposition to determine some of the non-mentioned systems.

One of the things I like is the outer ring of dual tube photon platforms - they independently house 60 torpedoes and they were modified after the Breen attack to be Quantum Torpedo launchers.

 

Do recall that the Ent-E uses some of the largest, most powerful warp coils in StarFleet, giving it unprecedeted speed and agility. It also has the most powerful warp CORE fitted to a ship in StarFleet.

Without that core, all the emergency power systems went online, and secondary systems went offline - replicators were rationed, holodecks went offline, things like that. They dumped all the power they could into combat systems

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