Star Wars vs Star Trek

Discussion in 'SciFi & Fantasy' started by Pollux V, May 9, 2002.

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Which universe would win?

  1. Star Trek

    227 vote(s)
    35.5%
  2. Star Wars

    268 vote(s)
    41.9%
  3. Spaceballs

    47 vote(s)
    7.3%
  4. Farscape

    12 vote(s)
    1.9%
  5. Dune

    50 vote(s)
    7.8%
  6. Stargate

    36 vote(s)
    5.6%
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    I read them. Your tactics were inadequate to that task.
    Star Fleet is far too fortified for Star War's weapons to spread Star Fleet thin.

    Did you not read the statement of the Federations actions during the War? I realize you may not be familiar with these events but the Federations is quite accustomed to acting as a unit in distant territory. They would not "spread there fleet thin."

    That offense would fail with out overwhelming force. 2 to 4 thousands ships...and they would take heavy casualties.
     
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    and do you expect to put a homing beacon on all the ships? or even one? they can't beam it aboard. they must capture or board it first. and if they can catch it they won't need to tag it.
     
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    just finished reading. they actually classify the Venator's armament on par with the Victory class, only surpasing it in hangar bays. the ISD1 & 2 by far outclass the Victory 1&2. more over ISDs are battleships, wile Venators are battleship escorts. this would put them into the heavy cruiser or battlecruiser category since they aper to be fast enough to hunt blocade runners. this is not a ship of the line feature.
     
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    as my first post on this topic stated i prefer analising UFP and Empire engagements since we have most on screen evidence of their capabilities. and it's more fun

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    i mean what point is there if all those God-like aliens in ST start taking sides? there won't be any battles. everyone would just stop existing.
     
  9. USS Athens Very Special Senior Member Valued Senior Member

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    That's not possible.

    I believe that Han said that not even the entire Imperial starfleet has enough firepower to destroy a planet (not including the DS).

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    Not as fast or as efficient has phasers I'm afraid.

    I'm afraid I've not seen this.

    Huh?

    Having trillions of ships is simply unfeasible, (notice how all of the crew are made up of similar-looking white, male officers).

    You do realize that you may kill a few drones, but they will eventually adapt to the blasters frequency and compensate. Inject a few troopers/Jedi/citizens with nanoprobes and the infection of assimilation has already begun.

    Also, the transwarp network is faster than hyperspace.

    You completely missed the point.

    :wtf:!?!?!
     
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    I know that Q comment is off the wall. When's the last time you heard of the Force users as omnipotent.

    And yes...the Voyager litteraly crossed tens of thousands of light years in mere minutes. That is many times faster. With the Federation steadily marching forward it won't be long before they completely pass up GFFA in stardrives...

    GFFA will never go anywhere and they never have...They've been stuck at the same level of tech for something like 20,000 years...
     
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    to be honest this was what always bothered me in SW. for a civilization that had FTL for more then 20000 years, they apear strangly backward in many fields of technology. the video game Knights of the Old Republic 1&2 implies that the Galactic societies undergo periodical civil wars and global dark ages (similar to Asimov's "Foundation" books). this would explain the strange gap betwean diferent science fields and the rural nature of many SW planets and cultures. unfortunately these games are not canon.
     
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    transwarp seams to have the advantage of not being afected by mass shadows, but has the disadvantage of hub deployment (at least in the form Borg were using). coaxial warp would be the ultimate propulsion, but it may not be the best option for humans.
     
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    Ideed...but I've seen the Time line in the books....the Hyperspace war goes back thousands and thousands of years. As you said everytime after that is marked with repeated and Unending war. The Republic seemed to be the first time peace was achieved for any long duration.

    the GFFA tech seems stagnant. light sabers have been around for almost all of that time. Hyperspace and laser weaponry. They should have long ago passed up the Federation who has a mere Eartly 400 years in space.
     
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    maybe the current alpha quadrant species are not old enough to face these masive catastrophies and extincions. if we judge from the amount of ancient galaxy-wide powers that are subjects of archeological survays by the UFP, Cardassia, Romulan Star Empire... there might have been a time in milky way (some 100000 years ago) when the great civilisations of the past were wiped out (like the T'Kon empire, but it was destroyed when the central star went super nova). so allthough in constant turmoil, the past 400 years may have actualy been quite peacefull. and we know that Klingons, Romulans, Vulkans and others were traveling the Galaxy when humans were still in the dark ages. so who knows maybe some extra-galactic menace still lurkes out there.
     
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    Intriguing.
    Like the Iconians.
     
  16. USS Athens Very Special Senior Member Valued Senior Member

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    You know, there are one-way conduits.
     
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  18. SkywalkerJedi アスラン・ザラ ( Athrun "Alex" Zala ) Registered Senior Member

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    It is not going to say " The Ventor is superior to the Imperial Star Destroyer" Compare them.
     
  19. SkywalkerJedi アスラン・ザラ ( Athrun "Alex" Zala ) Registered Senior Member

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    What the.......
    Star Wars Turbolasers are slower then phasers but they are more powerful.
    The Starfleet can be spread thin because the Republic can threaten the Federation world's safety. They would send ventors and victory, victroy is cheap and ventors are powerful.
     
  20. SkywalkerJedi アスラン・ザラ ( Athrun "Alex" Zala ) Registered Senior Member

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    No. They made the Hyperdrives smaller and they put it on TIEs at 40 ABY, the clone wars is 21-29 BBY. And the Death Star is completed in 0 BBY. Centerpoint is invented in 300,000+ BBY. The slower version of Hyperdrive is invented around the time of Revan's Sith Empire. The Republic made a army in 10 years. The Republic and the Star Wars Galaxy progressed quite a bit, they don't show scientists on screen, they do have them. If Voyager can go that fast why did they got stuck for 7 years? Star Wars measure in Parsecs not Light-years.
     
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    They didn't invent Turbolasers in the Great Hyperspace War, they have slower hyperdrives, their lightsabers have a large powerpack carried as a big backpack, they don't have handheld blasters. They built the GAR in 10 years and the CIS army too in 10 years.
     
  22. SkywalkerJedi アスラン・ザラ ( Athrun "Alex" Zala ) Registered Senior Member

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    It is impressive that the Jedi Order, Coruscant and the Republic have lasted that long through out the wars.
     
  23. SkywalkerJedi アスラン・ザラ ( Athrun "Alex" Zala ) Registered Senior Member

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    If Q is involved Skywalker can beat him.
     
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