Star Wars vs Star Trek

Discussion in 'SciFi & Fantasy' started by Pollux V, May 9, 2002.

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Which universe would win?

  1. Star Trek

    227 vote(s)
    35.5%
  2. Star Wars

    268 vote(s)
    41.9%
  3. Spaceballs

    47 vote(s)
    7.3%
  4. Farscape

    12 vote(s)
    1.9%
  5. Dune

    50 vote(s)
    7.8%
  6. Stargate

    36 vote(s)
    5.6%
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  1. Nickelodeon Banned Banned

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    WTF? You ask this in a Star Wars vs Star Trek thread?!
     
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  3. fusion4577 insane, atheist, and not dead Registered Senior Member

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    space balls have a giant vacum cleaner, how can they lose?
     
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  5. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    Kirby...


    'Nuff said
     
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  7. JohnM81 Registered Member

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    Ive been wondering is there any canon evidence on how far in the past the starwars saga is? How far back is "a long time ago" ?

    Now flash to the future, in the time of the federation, what is the political and military landscape look like in the sw galaxy? Are ISDs still used or are the SSD or even the Ultra class the new norm? Is the new republic in power or has the new empire re-established itself? What are the state of the jedi/sith? What does the galactic population look like? Are clones still in use?

    Are you extrapolating canon tech to the future or are you just using the tech from the current novels and assuming no tech advancement from there?

    IF you all do have opinions what canon evidence can you point to to strengthen your ideas?

    A fun opinion based question for us to ponder...
     
  8. USS Athens Very Special Senior Member Valued Senior Member

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    I you ask my opinion, since the physics seem to work very differently in both worlds, I think they are in separete universes.
     
  9. Hellblade8 Valued Senior Member

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    Um, this is Star Wars vs Star Trek. This suggests the setting of Star Wars vs the setting of Star Trek. To change the time in which the setting occurs defeats the purpose of matching the two together, as the future Star Wars is unknown. Thus, a comparison is impossible in that manner.
     
  10. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    Future SW vs Future Trek would go like this:

    Future SW has a lot of uber tech

    Future Trek has... humans having evolved and being more powerful than even the Q


    Not a hard decision...
     
  11. JohnM81 Registered Member

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    Well isn't it sort of established that both are in the same universe just different galaxys? In the movie it reads: A long time ago in a galaxy far far away....

    Not in a universe far far away.
     
  12. JohnM81 Registered Member

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    Kittamaru & Hellblade8

    Im not sure why you two are having such difficulty with my question. Its not a question of future sw vs future st. Its simply how do you think the sw galaxy would look in the time of the federation militarily, socially, politically, ect....

    It isn't a vs question.
     
  13. FoolFromHell Photons be Free. Registered Senior Member

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    Here... everything is.
     
  14. TW Scott Minister of Technology Registered Senior Member

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    Suncrusher is a FIGHTER, No room for anything but the pilot. Given the description of it hull (makes nuetronium look lightweight) transporters will not be an issue. Cutting it open is not an option as the ship can litteral take a Heavy Turbolaer and not notice.
     
  15. USS Athens Very Special Senior Member Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, but did lucas know what he was doing at the time?
     
  16. TW Scott Minister of Technology Registered Senior Member

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    Each palent has it's own navy and fighter defense force. Any world with a colony larger than a few hundred thousand also has defensive shields as well as a real military. Not to mention planetary defense Ion cannons and Turbolaser cannons.

    Now one Turbolaser cannon fires a bolt of energy that is 60+ times more pwerful than the ENTIRE output than the Warp core of a Galaxy class starship. We know that it takes only a few dozen federations starships to destroy a cube and many of those ships were less powerful than a Galaxy class starship.

    So supposing you send 10 cubes to each Imperial world (an impossibility as the Empire had billions of worlds and the Baorg may have had as many as two trillion of themselves spread acorss ships, planets, and bases.) you would assimiliate only the most backwards of worlds if anything.
     
  17. TW Scott Minister of Technology Registered Senior Member

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    Does that matter? Oh yeah that's right, no it doesn't.
     
  18. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    Aw shit, here's scott and his mumbo jumbo again...

    Give it a rest would you Scott... even those on YOUR SIDE have said you are an incompetent, babbling fool!
     
  19. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    Oh, and we disproved your theory about the TL bolt vs Warp Core thing multiple times... so drop that lame attempt at bullshittary... it broke down less than a page after you posted it, yet here you are using it AGAIN at least 40 pages later!
     
  20. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    Aaldaraan, Tatooine, and a bunch of other planets had... NO PLANETARY DEFENSES AT ALL! Including the Jedi Capital World... c'mon!
     
  21. Saquist Banned Banned

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    Speculation...yes...
    speculation based on every previous weapon produced in Star Wars.
    Nothing other than a blast grenade is omni directional....so yes...speculation and since we're indulging speculation it is better to side on caution and limits concerning the unknown than to boldly advertise no limits....

    SO I feel quite safe with limiting the World Devastors to having a firing arc.
    But thank you for pointing out the obviousness of the speculation.

    However, that being said...speculation aside...they do have a propper orientation and do have an arc and range of influence....I believe there are enough images of this to be certain of.
     
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  22. FoolFromHell Photons be Free. Registered Senior Member

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    YET... Voyager can take on a bioship's main gun for two seconds and survive while 10 bioships can destroy a planet...

    The bioships themselves can take over the Empire.
     
  23. Enterprise-D I'm back! Warp 8 Mr. Worf! Registered Senior Member

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    No...time paradoxes do not operate like this; on anyone's whims and fancies. If the jedi can see the future, they will know that all of their ships will mysteriously explode somewhere just before a key Starfleet vessel or Federation planet is to be taken. They will not have a clue as to why because they cannot "see" the out of phase future Starfleeters or weapons. They will therefore call off the fight or doggedly try in spite of the vision and lose many ships.
     
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