Star Wars vs Star Trek

I think Star Wars wins...the fanaticism race!

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Then you failed, as they said, QUITE CLEARLY AND VISIBLE ON THE VIEWSCREEN, that they were using a warp capable weapon to drain their shields. It was a torpedo-shaped projectile as shown ON THE VIEWSCREEN.

Scott, you are talking out of EVERY orafice you have BUT your mouth. Shove it and stow it and GTFO. You are trashing Wars AND Trek with your bullshit.

 

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LOL!!!!!!!!!!

Shotcaller says, Kittamaru just took SHOT @ SCOTT

 

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Saquist, I have been taking shots at scott since I came here and started disproving theory after theory of his. He cannot accept defeat *shrugs*

 

Eat this scott it says that there were turbolasers on the surface on Death Star. And yet they were using them on fighters?:wtf:

 

You are correct on one part. The did use a missile like device while in warp, however in all other episide we have never seen them use such a missile against a ship again. Also the since the attack did do damage to the enterprise after the shields were dropped, it simply could have been a destructive torpedo designed envelop targets.

However in all other conflicts they do rely solely with the draining/tractor beam and laser cutters

I attribute my mistake to just watching and reading the scenes of the first meeting and not the pursuit.

 

No, the borg are a race of meshed being from across the galaxy, their ships are made for space travel, they aren't weak, and they have shown the ability to do considerable damage as well. They eventully adapted to their phasers/weapon tactics and reduced their power down to an unacceptable amount. And the borg as well do have torpedoes scott, in the battle for Sector 001, (ST: VIII) wait for the Ent-E's screen to apear as it focouses on the battle in front of it. Watch the Saber class vessel near the bottem of the screen, it is bombarded with some sort of borg torpedo.

 

Also, regarding the canon system for SW, the novels are basically fan-fiction, and fans have their own little ideas of how they want the story to go (obviously), thus the novels can create contradicting storylines.

 

What, you think they should not have been firing back at the fighters that were shooting up the surface. The defenses of the Death Star was designed around capital ship assault not tiny Star Fighters.

 

Well then if they had not been prepared, then what bad engineers they are, and don't give me the crap that they "didn't consider a fighter a threat", why else would they bother shooting then and just evacuate the outer shell of that area of the DS?

 

Dude, you are putting too much Stock inot RSA. As Lucas puts it he only concerns himself of the timeline of the movies. Anything he does in the movies is canon. While the other materials he approves of are canon, wherever they directly conflict the movies, the movies are correct. However just becuase there is an indescrepiency in a book, does not mean the whole book is noncanon, just the part that disagrees with the movie.

 

But then that means that that story is told incorrectly, and may cause a chain of events that renders it obsolete.

 

Would you want to rebuild all that bullshit? Besides Tarkin, the ego maniac in charge, probably thought his troops would have fun shooting those filthy rebels. As for bad engineering? No. Bad planning on part of Tarkin? Yes.

BTW second Death Star had a much more efficent point defense grid.

 

Who agrees here, is Warp Drive more likely to be possible than Hyperdrive? I do.

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No, it just means that a small detail might have been remembered or recorded incorrectly.

For instance let's say that a writer misremembered and gave the Millenium Falcon four turrets systems. That can be explained as a temporary experiment by Han and Chewie to increase the defensive capabilities. It does not change over all canon nor make the story obsolete.

 

Okay, I have gone over this before. Suspension of disbelief nmeans that if it works onscreen, it must work. Whether an idea is more realistic than the other is moot. Actually neither are horribly realistic, especially as Roddenberry explained warp.

 

Why should the victor accept defeat? You truly are a delusional little person.

You have no disproven a single theory or mine. You have provided no concrete evidence You haven't provided calculations. In fact all you have provided is ad hominem, red herrings and straw man tactics.

 

Alright, so then from what you are saying:

Since it only occured once, we can discredit it as being VERY unusual, even uncanon.

Thus, Survivors is now Uncanon.

Your call Scott- which is it going to be?

 

Read the following post. It is one of many examples of my "ad hominem, red herring, straw man tactics" that punch holes in your arguments that ALMOST match the crater that is your mouth. Keep spewing your filth, Scott, if it helps you sleep at night. Know that fanboy bullshit will not prevail over cold hard facts. Facts that, when it boils down to it, you seem unwilling to accept.

 

Then why not just obliterate them with a simple gigaton volly? You realise that if you cross two of those bolts that it would cause a massive explosive energy that would easily destroy those fighters? It doesn't matter how agile those ships are, there is simply no way to avoid a raidus blast of that magnitude. The only way you could possibly pull that kind of shit off is if you happen to be a 40th level Monk.

IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO EVADE THAT KIND OF AREA DESTRUCTION!

And yeah, that is bad station design. Your talking about a station that only has ray shielding, and yet they thought that fighters couldn't have possibly have posed any kind of threat?

THEY. ARE. FUCKING. MORONS.