Star Wars vs Star Trek

Discussion in 'SciFi & Fantasy' started by Pollux V, May 9, 2002.

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Which universe would win?

  1. Star Trek

    227 vote(s)
    35.5%
  2. Star Wars

    268 vote(s)
    41.9%
  3. Spaceballs

    47 vote(s)
    7.3%
  4. Farscape

    12 vote(s)
    1.9%
  5. Dune

    50 vote(s)
    7.8%
  6. Stargate

    36 vote(s)
    5.6%
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  1. TW Scott Minister of Technology Registered Senior Member

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  3. Hellblade8 Valued Senior Member

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    Um, TW Scott, are you going to address my post? Why did you skip to this one?
     
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  5. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    Scott, I'll be simple JUST for you:

    Nobody was surprised because, SURPRISE! It just happened!

    Instead of being all shocked and confused, they chose to ACT and do something about it.

    If a US Solider was "surprised" and "shocked" when something happened that shouldnt' happen, we'd have a LOT more dead soldiers...
     
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  7. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    Scott, let me do some math for you:

    Assuming ONLY FIVE major continuity mistakes in Star Wars:

    5 mistakes divided by 6 movies is about .89 mistakes per movie.

    Now, Star trek (and we'll use your episodes just to make you happy)

    assume 250 major mistakes in continuity over 726 + 10 episodes.
    That is about .3396 mistakes per episode.

    So, yeah. You see what I'm saying? Trek has a MUCH larger margin of error thanks to having SO much screentime!
     
  8. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    No, he won't, because he cannot fight it without resorting to name calling and idiotic remarks about how his mother could beat your mother.
     
  9. TW Scott Minister of Technology Registered Senior Member

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    Obviously the CGI guy messing up.


    It is only thing to exaggerate the size of the ship. Quite another to be reading the sensor readout and tell the Captain the wrong reading.
     
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  10. Hellblade8 Valued Senior Member

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    Sorry, suspension of disbelief, that means we can't apply normal logic and reason because its canon.




    Really? I think its a little more far fetched to walk upon a ship and not notice that its ten times the size as it was a day ago, or a tenth of the size it was supposed to be. And poor Worf, he lives on the thing and doesn't seem to notice at all! The poor dear must be going mad...
     
  11. Lord Vasago bcd Registered Senior Member

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    we have an at-at
     
  12. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    ... not for long

    *steals the At At*

    WHAT IS LOVE! BABY DON"T HURT ME! DON"T HURT ME! NO MORE!

    *stomps around town in his AT-Pathfinder*
     
  13. TW Scott Minister of Technology Registered Senior Member

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    250 mistakes? oh please

    Every episode with Defiant is guarateed one continuity error on top of any other.


    Every episode of Enterprise has theses continuity errors

    Every moment in that that history
    Warp engines in a ship prior to The Cage (remeber that the Enterprise had what they called a hyperdrive thought obviously not the same as SW hyperdrive.)
    Ship more advanced looking than the TOS Constitution

    not to mention individual ones of
    meeting Klingons
    meeting the Ferengi
    and many many more.
     
  14. TW Scott Minister of Technology Registered Senior Member

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    Finally you graduate, I was hoping you'd catch that.


    Actually the biggest difference I have read about was 20 meter difference in size for the Defiant. jem Ha'dar fighters seem to vary a bit in size, but that could be different production runs.
     
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  15. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    Please don't try getting nit-picky scott... you could double the number of errors in ST, quadruple them, increase them by a factor of 100. I could point out enough errors in SW should I decide to go thru each movie and look that would give SW as much higher ratio.

    Why?

    IT DOES NOT HAVE THE SCREEN TIME.

    Period.
    End of discussion.
     
  16. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    Learn to quote first off...

    and second, adding a full deck is quite a big difference when there's, what? 4 decks TOTAL?

    You are adding 1/4 onto it's height.

    That's a pretty big difference for such a small ship...
     
  17. TW Scott Minister of Technology Registered Senior Member

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    A deck doesn't have to be full size, just big enough for a crawl space
     
  18. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    ...

    ...

    I honestly don't know how to reply to that...

    have you EVER, in ALL OF STAR TREK, seen an ATTIC?

    NO!

    So why the FUCK would you imply there MIGHT be one?

    Deck is to Starships as Story is to Skyscrapers.

    STANDARDIZED.

    Christ, what would EVER make you think contrary to that? Jefferies tubes perhaps? Maintenence access? They are separate parts of the ship and are, generally, between decks.

    Oh, and as you are so FOND of saying:

    Prove it.
     
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    Then of course that still means that UFP firepower has increased since that event, as we see them taking on alot more firepower later. Good thing they upgraded those shields.




    Nope. The Founders like everything to be standard. They would hate for a Jem'Hadar attack ship to be even an inch longer than it would be and thus that would make it unlike the Domionion. Seeing as you have no other proof and the ship that always varies is the Defiant, then I suppose its the Defiant now isn't it?

    Are we done playing this game, or can we get back down to real debating, in which case you have to admit that your wrong about the 400 gigawatt idea?
     
  21. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    He will never admit to it- he's so hopped up on jesus-juice from his fanboy friends that he thinks he's right.
     
  22. TW Scott Minister of Technology Registered Senior Member

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    Actually the ratio does not concern me as much as how many time ST repeats mistakes. I mean even if they were slightly consistant, but they aren't. Not even close. I mean SW if it makes a mistake it's minimal but ST messes up BIG things.
     
  23. Hellblade8 Valued Senior Member

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    Oh, I know that. But now he either has to admit to the logical fact that the writers made a mistake, just as the CGI people made a mistake, or he has to agree to something that anyone with a half a brain could tell you is wrong. It was a trap. >=)
     
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