Star Wars vs Star Trek

Discussion in 'SciFi & Fantasy' started by Pollux V, May 9, 2002.

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Which universe would win?

  1. Star Trek

    227 vote(s)
    35.5%
  2. Star Wars

    268 vote(s)
    41.9%
  3. Spaceballs

    47 vote(s)
    7.3%
  4. Farscape

    12 vote(s)
    1.9%
  5. Dune

    50 vote(s)
    7.8%
  6. Stargate

    36 vote(s)
    5.6%
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  1. USS Athens Very Special Senior Member Valued Senior Member

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    Since SW hasn't given the proper canon information, i'm just pretending that they're about the same. There isn't much else for me to do.
     
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  3. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    I feel TriCobalt devices in Star Trek could cause immense amounts of damage to a planet, and even the smallest starship (StarShip, not fighter) can launch them.

    The destructive power of their advanced weaponry isn't limited to their largest vessels like in Star Wars.
     
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  5. TW Scott Minister of Technology Registered Senior Member

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  7. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    Oh yes, and that's cannon...

    That site has more holes than a rifle range target and less brains than an egyptian burial chamber.
     
  8. Hellblade8 Valued Senior Member

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    Sacrafice of Angels begs to differ.
     
  9. Warrior61 I saw the Light Registered Senior Member

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    Simple truth as in I can blow 500 people up with a small gun, that I did not make, or I can wield a lightsaber to the point where I can let it go and control it. Which one is more impressive? Of course the technology has similarities and differences. Also take into consideration we are arguing about what was in another guy's head. I am not arguing who would win as in lets have a big fight I am just simply acknowleding the truth that star wars is cooler. RESPECT
     
  10. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    Actually...

    I should accept that site as cannon if you wish Scott. All the more ammo for us to use against you.
     
  11. TW Scott Minister of Technology Registered Senior Member

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    I take it that you did not read that. Pity, you might have learned something about analyzing footage
     
  12. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    Warrior, you are missing the point.

    The lightsaber is tactically less effective than a phaser is. Hell, a Phaser would most likely vaporize a lightsaber anyway.
     
  13. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCm70favfYI

    That is actually a good video- assuming the leangth of a peregrine fighter (those shown attacking the cardassian Keldor class ships) we can figure those blasts (which are ignited by the phaser blasts of LIGHT FIGHTERS) are at least 50 meters across.

    That isn't bad at all for firepower from a light fighter upon a capital starship.

    Oh, and Scott, i've read that site back to front before and discarded it as useless. If that is where you draw your numbers from, then I must say now I understand why they are so terribly wrong.
     
  14. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    Another thing shown by that video-

    Noice that the galaxy class fires a salvo of phaser bursts at a Galor class ship. Two of the blasts from two separate arrays hit the same spot, obliterating it. Two more blasts from that galaxy and two from another Galaxy impact just below the ridge on the Galor.

    Yes, tactical weapons fire. You barely see two or three blaster bolts in Star Wars hit the same spot, so you are spreading your limited firepower out even more.
     
  15. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    A final note- notice how manuverable the Defiant is in that video- I reckon it could damn near hold it's own against an X-Wing in exo-atmospheric flight.
     
  16. USS Athens Very Special Senior Member Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah nice vid, if only they had used Excelsior-IIs.
     
  17. Hellblade8 Valued Senior Member

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    Funny.

    Sadly, I don't trust that site. And not because its a star wars site. Its because the owner of the site is nothing more than scum. His number one opponent, Darkstar, has suffered because of Wong and his scum bag friends. They hacked him, found out his life style and location, using it as a character assasination. Then to make his position worse, whenever Darkstar links something to Wong's site, as a means to show his side of what Wong claims, its routed to a porn site that more oftan than not, fucks up anyone who clicks on it. So not only has Wong harmed Darkstar, but also anyone who trys the link. Utterly disgusting.

    And as for his own debating? Sub-par really. He claims what was it? That tritanium is the same as titanium and that its only called different because its a brand name? Am I the only one here who's annoyed by this? I find it odd that aliens that the UFP meets seem to have the same hulls brands as they do, given that they UFP makes it for themselves and not others. So, yeah, I find that lacking.

    That, and its odd how when he makes a note of the Eclipse Star Destroyer, where it fires its main cannon that, in the book is stated to have 1/3rd the power of the Death Star. I find it funny how Wong decides that the guy writing the book is wrong, and that he can change the canon to suit his own needs. Given that we have little knowedge on how powerful the Super Laser is, or how it works.

    So, sorry, I don't trust that site or its sources. Please try a more reliable site, or put up your own evidence.
     
  18. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    I believe they did use the refit Excelsior class to be honest- though they did have the old Centaur class there.
     
  19. USS Athens Very Special Senior Member Valued Senior Member

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    Regarding multiple phaser shots, I have noticed that ST ships can fire multiple phasers as long as the array/bank is in the right direction. Look at an Intrepid class ship, it can fire two forward phasers. Look closely at the array config.
     
  20. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    Indeed Hellboy. Here here!
     
  21. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    Not just that- watch the Ent-E in Nemesis trying to find the Scimitar. It fired off what, at least a dozen low power phaser shots before finding the Scimitar? It then ramped up the power and plastered the shields of the Scimitar (admitedly not doing much but the Scimitar was a huge powerful ship)
     
  22. USS Athens Very Special Senior Member Valued Senior Member

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    In that part I remember that no phasers were fired simolntanius, they just jumped to the next array real quick. And I must say, great thinking Picard had there.

    Picard: Ready all phasers, zero elevation, all banks on my mark!

    Picard: Scan for any sheild impacts, ready photon torpedos!

    Picard: Fire!

    I loved that line, he really knew what he was doing.
     
  23. Hellblade8 Valued Senior Member

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    Actually, this one is much better for showing off just how manuverable the Defiant really is.

    And sure the movie itself was pretty bad, but the fight scene in Star Trek 10 is pretty awsome.
     
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