Star Wars vs Star Trek

Actually technically we could pick anything in canon. Now you can certainly have the Dyson Sphere, but you can''t have the race that built it as they NEVER appear. So basically you just have a base that destroys your own ships....fun.

 

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stormtroopers against fremen are you nuts if the fremein can rip sadukar to shreds which are amazing in melee combat and can acually hit the broadside of a barn in ranged do you really think stormtroopers would stand a chance hell if there on arakis the sandworms would eat most of them

 

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Well certainly Luke could do it if inclined, but you are thinking Centerpoint Station

 

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"Force Storm was a dark side Force power, and possibly the most powerful Force ability known. Force Storm was actually not a storm; in fact, it was the ability to create hyperspace wormholes via the dark side of the Force. A Force Storm could range from the size of a small starship, like a freighter, to huge maws capable of obliterating whole starfleets. The smaller storms appeared more easily controlled from a greater distance. No Force users other than Palpatine have exhibited this ability."

 

"Using this knowledge, I can unleash the dark side energies that are all around us, even to shatter the fabric of space itself. In this way, I have created storms."
―Palpatine in The Book of Anger

 

Kittamaru I think your don't really get what your up against.
Let's presume two isd are on a mission to destroy earth. They exit hyperspace just in front of your spacestation. In lest than two seconds they launch every torpedo on your surprised station.
One isd breaks of and puts his attention on earth, while the other is attack full force. All squadrons of both ships are invading earth's upper atmosfeer nuking the hell out off every city, before desending into the lower atmosfeer taking out what's left.

Meanwhile the second ids can rejoin the first to finish of the remains of your orbital defences.

Maybe , and I say Maybe if we forgot to jam your communications you were able to scream for help. butt ....... how much time is pasted?

Let's make it 20min. Howmany ships can come to the rescue in less ? They'll have to because we'll be long gone.

No planetary shield = no need for ground forces.
We can take you on the ground butt it would be nothing more than training

 

We could just let Grievous lead the assult on the ground he loves to use bioweapons >

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btw Tie Defenders kick ass just thought I would let you know.

 

wait, small Fighters carry nukes ?, o phasers can target nuclear missles, Mckinely Station Orbits Earth along with around about 100 ships of various sizes, as well a at least 10 warships docked with her. Oh Utopia Plantia Fleetyards which always have ships on alert are nearby about 2 minutes warp away.
Also, you would be detected way before you got close, there are planetary and solar defense satelites.

 

No fighters dont carry nukes

 

Nukes in sw are out of date weapons not even considerd superweapons

 

satelites are like a mosquito bugging an elefant.
ST can't detect ships in hyperspace.

peace

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So destroy or control and take its resorces?
if we want the latter then 2 words: World Devastators

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allthoug that would be perfect, i rather would not use them on earth itself.
The planet could prove very interesting. take it, restore it, shield it, colonise it!

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we could use world devastators on deepspace 9 and other stations, producing thousand of SSD's. a few deathstars, billions of fighters.
oh what the heck lets make a few galaxy ships of our own just to fool them.

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Earth would be much better under imperial rule and it would be well protected and a real government not some commie federation, more rights for the ppl as well

 

Interplanetary Ion Cannon.The Interplanetary Ion Cannon was able to target planets at interstellar ranges, and its ion beams could vaporize a terrestrial planet's atmosphere. just thought that sounded like to fun to try on a planet

 

Okay, a few things:

1) As soon as they entered the SOLAR SYSTEM they would have to exit hyperspace- as shown in Star Wars, powerful gravity wells = no hyperspace. Surely something as LARGE as say JUPITER = no hyperspace. That and the energy barrier the Q have around the SOL system would stop them unless they had their shields up- as EVERY time they exit hyperspace into combat they have to raise shields, it is safe to assume they cannot use shields in hyperspace.

2) As soon as they were detected (and an energy mass as great as you guys claim an ISD can generate would be detected lightyears away from Sol) a fleet would be scrambled to defend Earth. Not only would you have the incredible defensive abilities of StarBase 001, but you ALSO have Jupiter Outpost, Saturn, Mars Staryards, the Moon bases, and any and all allied ships in the area to contend with. As Earth is a pretty large trade hub, that's a LOT.

3) I think it's safe to say Earth is pretty well shielded- given that the Enterprise D could wrap it's shields around ships twice its size, I think Starbase 001 could project a VERY large shield around a large portion of the Earth. I don't recall it ever being said that Earth was or wasn't shielded, so we will assume it was (as you guys are so fond of assuming that just because some of your planets could be shielded they all were). Given the nature of Trek shields, your ISD would impact it and have a nice sized hole vaporized in the hull.

4) PDP's- Point Defense Phasers. So much for your torpedos.

5) Supposing you DID get ground forces on Earth, they would simply be beamed into holding cells. Just because they haven't done it on earth doesn't mean they can't (we can assume they can because a small SHIP can do it, so a planet with dozens of ships around it most likely could)

6) Even if you DID jam communications, there are fleet tactics that are practiced for an invasion. There is no need to communicate- simply form up and go. At close range ship to ship communications are nigh unblockable via subspace radio.

7) I don't care how many TIE"s you launch, detonate a few photon torpedos in those swarms of bucket heads and you have a bunch of debris where a cloud of fighters used to be.

 

Finally, for GODS sake stop ressurecting the dead- if you want to do that, we'll pull back the guys that made things like the indestructible Dyson sphere, the asteroid field that drained your power no matter HOW strong your output, and the team that made the genesis device. If you want to suddenly cause fleet actions that have NEVER occured to occur, fine. We'll surround Sol with Energy Draining belts that are tuned to avoid the transponders of friendly ships. We'll stockpile thousands of genesis devices.

Do you see where I am going with this? Don't open up the can of worms that are UNTESTED things that MIGHT happen- stick with things that we can compare.

This is a fictitious argument on fictional information that, for the most part, has no REAL basis for comparison. For all we know, Trek could use Standard and Wars could use Metric! We just don't know. Given what I have seen on screen, wars is at a HUGE disadvantage in mobility and defenses. The DS and DS2 are the ONLY planetary threats and even they have 1/3 the range of a standard torpedo's optimal range!

To make matters worse, we have the van allen radiation belt around our system which would likely screw with your ships. We have asteroids that would scare off your "capital ships" that are too clumsy to manuver around them. Our ships would be running circles around you, BASED ON SCREEN SHOWN EVIDENCE.

If you want to open these hypothetical cans of worms, go ahead- you're just asking for a beatdown.

 

And yet he got wtfpwnt in the end by Vader.

Thus he is dead.

Thus who gives a shit?

 

Here I go having to correct your bullshit again

First the gravity shadow that cuases ships to drop out of hyperspace is usually restricted to one or two planetary diameters. SW has planets MUCH more massive than Jupiter.

Second the Q has put up no such field around Sol, stop inventing shit.

Third Shields are useful in hyperspace, but for the most part why waste the fuel keeping them up.

First of all those last Light years to earth would take mere fractions of a second to travel and the fleet will break out of hyperspace no more than 2 planetary diameters from Earth, well with in weapons range for their TL'. And they can jump out at even the hint of a rescue fleet which would be minutes away, at best.

We know from canon that palnetary shields are pretty much unheard of to the Federation.

If you can't do it to Photons you can't do it to Protons

They have never shown this capability at all especially against a force that would be jamming every band of scanners, sensors and comms.

But how would you call for help?

A 25 ton weapons, nope sorry not even going to blacken the surface.