Spanking children, a parent's right ?

Discussion in 'Human Science' started by Cazzo, Aug 20, 2008.

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When it comes to parents spanking their kids butts :

  1. The UN should be able to criminalize spanking for ALL parents everywhere.

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  2. Only individual states or countries should criminalize spanking if they want.

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  3. Parents should be allowed to spank their own children, it's their buisness alone.

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  4. Other.

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  1. shorty_37 Go! Canada Go! Registered Senior Member

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    How could you take the child from your wife just because she gave them a spanking?

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    What do you mean you would take off and she would never see you or her child again? Wouldn't you be breaking the law? You can't just take off with a child when the other parent has custody as well. Not to mention don't you think you would be doing more harm to the child by taking them away from their mother? :bugeye: Not to mention you could just walk away from your wife?

    FGM?? :shrug:
     
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  3. shorty_37 Go! Canada Go! Registered Senior Member

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    She shouldn't be slapping you around as an adult. But as an adult you should be able to walk away from the situation and not return to it, if that is the case. I don't see the need to charge your mother with assault.
     
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  5. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    female genital mutilation (FMG)

    And i really wouldnt care about her feelings at all, anyone who hits another human being deserves no respect. Futher more no its not always against the law to remove children from your partner without there concent for instance in domestic violonce cases the partner will be thrown out with no access normally and the law surports this.

    corporal punishment is assult and no one has yet shown a reason it shouldnt be. The law moves ever closer to it becoming an aposlute criminal offence and child abuse to boot
     
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  7. shorty_37 Go! Canada Go! Registered Senior Member

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    I am not going there because now you are WAYYYYYYYYY off topic.

    I totally disagree with everything you are saying now. This whole leaving your wife and taking your child. Calling the police on family members if they spanked their children. :bugeye:
     
  8. lepustimidus Banned Banned

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    shorty:
    So your answer is to break all contact? Isn't that infinitely more cruel than just slapping back, or charging the parent with assault?

    Just as an aside: if I ever hit my adult offspring, and they slapped me back, I wouldn't begrudge them for doing so. They owe me a certain amount respect, sure, but they definitely don't owe me slavish obedience. I'm not a god, I can't hit them and expect to get away with it. I subscribe to the philosophy that if I hit someone in an aggressive fashion, then I had better be prepared to get hit back.
     
  9. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    thats ok

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    , i disagree with your "its ok because god said so"

    basically the only "evidence" for it you have is that "its always been done" which is the same excuse used for FGM (and MGM as well for that matter) and is there for no better.

    Come back when you have SCIENCE grade evidence and we will have a debate about the pros and cons and the limitations of the evidence on both sides. so far you have been unwilling (or unable) to provide any evidence as to why it SHOULD be concidered best practice or even be legal
     
  10. shorty_37 Go! Canada Go! Registered Senior Member

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    No, you don't necessarily have to break all contact. I think if it happened to me, I would leave immediately out the door. We probably wouldn't talk for a few days or longer. I would then tell her that I do not appreciate being hit because I am an adult and no longer a child. If she doesn't like what I am doing she can tell me about it, yell even but no hitting. I would tell her that if she did that again, I would walk out and again and maybe not come back next time.

    I would not charge her with assault though, or hit her back.
     
  11. shorty_37 Go! Canada Go! Registered Senior Member

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    I never said it is the Best or only practice a parent should use as punishment.
    I said in some cases, it works.

    The only evidence that really interests me, is my own kids. I think I have done a great job, because they are great kids. I don't regret the few spankings they got. They don't hold it against me and I see no evidence in them that suggests that they are going to turn out for the worse because of it.
     
  12. lepustimidus Banned Banned

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    shorty:
    Well, that approach won't work if they hit you in your own home, hey?
     
  13. jargon Registered Member

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    kids have to do what they are told
     
  14. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    So, kids now "willfully" do the wrong thing? It's not just about ignorance any more? And, I'm making the absurd statements?

    You've not offered a shred of evidence to back up any one of your "absurd statements" why should we keep providing you MOUNTAINS of evidence to support ours?

    Have you anything at all that would support spanking and your assertions on ignorance and willful wrongdoing?

    Or, are you just making this stuff up as you go along?
     
  15. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Again Cutsie, I already explained to you that is NOT respect, that is fear and apprehension that you are emulating. Respect is admiration for someone, so you would be admiring those who hit you, which is not the case, is it? Do you actual admire people who hit you?
     
  16. Kadark Banned Banned

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    I can't believe idiots like Asguard can equate spanking a child for his or her wrongdoings to female genital mutilation. What a fucking retard.


    Kadark
     
  17. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Perhaps, like many things you disagree with, you're "believing" as opposed to thinking.

    Try thinking, instead of believing. That way your argument will be more than just, "What a fucking retard."

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  18. madanthonywayne Morning in America Staff Member

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    Well, if you ever do have kids, get back to me in 5 years or so and we'll see if you stick to that. Something tells me that a guy who would actually hit his parents will end up using corporal punishment.
    Removing a girls clitoris is the same as a spanking? Hmmm. I don't support FGM, but I'm a strong supporter of male circumcision.
     
  19. visceral_instinct Monkey see, monkey denigrate Valued Senior Member

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    Nice quote. I agree.

    What makes you think it's ok to use 'girls' as an insult?

    You think all girls are innocent angels? You should have seen me shout 'poo' and 'wee' in public aged 3/4. Or my sister scream nonstop as a toddler. Or my niece incessantly kick, punch, and poke me in the face, to the point that I had to hurt her.
     
  20. madanthonywayne Morning in America Staff Member

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    I wasn't using it as an insult. Little girls have a different temperment than little boys. Little girls are better suited to sitting still and studying than little boys. If you consider that an insult, so be it. Or do you actually believe that girls and boys are exactly the same?
     
  21. visceral_instinct Monkey see, monkey denigrate Valued Senior Member

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    No, I don't consider them the same. Neither do I consider all girls the same and all boys the same.

    Some boys are very calm. Some girls are little lunatics.
     
  22. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Anything that supports your position, yet, sir? Nada? Zip? Nothing?

    Anecdotes and personal assertions, only?
     
  23. CutsieMarie89 Zen Registered Senior Member

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    My grandmother never hit my mother, since she has been an adult. Its just how she explained to me why me, as a three year old, why hitting her back was not to be tolerated. Even now as an adult I do still obey my parents wishes unless, it directly contradicts something that I really want to do for some reason, but so far everything that I've done like that has blown up in my face and I found out my parents were right all along so I try to follow their advice more often. The relationship I have with my mother now is very similar to the relationship that she has with my grandmother so I guess she did a good job raising me.
     

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