Socialism in Motion: A Trainwreck

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Which one? The "First New Deal" (1933–34) or the "Second New Deal" (1935–38)? Given both were total failures - as evidenced by the fact the policies were stopped (because they did not work).

From Journal of Political Economy** New Deal Policies and the Persistence of the Great Depression: A General Equilibrium Analysis

It should be noted, unemployment was at 19.0% in 1938.

** I've linked JPE's journal ranking for perspective - it's the highest ranked economic journal in the world.

 

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Again, GM was bailed out by the tax-payer. That's NOT free-market capitalism. There's nothing wrong with companies going bust - as a matter of fact. When they get it wrong, they SHOULD. If M$ continued to make products like the Zune, then they should go bust. And this is the problem, the Government ONLY makes faulty ignition modules and Zunes. But here you are pom-pom cheerleading for them? Why is that? Oh, that's right, you were brainwashed to believe Government (a group of humans with the legal obligation to initiate force against innocent humans) is moral whereas private businesses (a group of humans without such legal obligation) are immoral. You were, in essence, mind-f*cked. The Americans that founded the country would barf to know the end results of their risked lives.

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Three companies A, B, C.

Company A: A $100 billion dollar company that can only survive by free-trade. That is to say, by providing value for money. By negotiating with laborers for the best deal on labor hours, negotiating with suppliers for the best deal on supplies, by investing in R&D and finally, by offering valued products that free people want to freely choose to buy. Company A is in competition with Companies X, Y and Z such that if they skimp on the labor-hour price, workers leave or if they try to screw over suppliers, suppliers leave, or if they try charging to much for too little - customers leave. All people involved with Company A are free moral agents working with sound money and within the law that protects workers by contract, protects buyers by contract against fraud and protects Company A by legal agreements. A fine balance is reached at the moment. But, who knows if Company A will be around in 10 years or 100. As a matter of fact, while they're on the upswing today, history suggests they'll be gone tomorrow.

Company B: A $80 billion dollar a year company. It survives by sticking a gun in your face and telling you to pay them or you will get dragged away and put in a rape-cage and if pushed to the limit - will murder you. You must buy what Company B is selling - like it or not. They have the legal obligation to initiate force against you should you choose not to. They provide a centralized management service for the 'schooling' of all children across all of the USSA. They can, with ease, change the way your very child learns to think about themselves, society - everything. A very powerful position. Across 40 years, since they started in business, the educational outcomes have remained static with little to no statistically measurable differences. They needed worry though. Because they don't have to provide value for money. They don't have to worry about going bust. They can just say f*ck you and blow through $80 BILLION dollars each and every single year without a worry in the world. While Company A is only 'worth' $100 billion and couldn't dream of spending their entire valued assets each year and must constantly struggle to meet all demands to satisfy everyone they're involved with, not so for Company B. They actually just blow through their $80 billion every single God damn year without a worry in the world. A Big F*ck you if you don't like it. Pay us or we shoot you in the God damn f*cking face. Oh, and don't mind the 50% functional illiterate graduates certified by Company B, they're going to have jobs as flag wavers as they go and work for Company C.

Company C: An unknown $XxXx Trillion dollar company that invades and occupies various countries around the world. Is known to murder innocent women and children on nearly a daily basis. Wastes more energy than any other institution or group of humans in history. Is the largest polluter in the world. Is 100% utterly incompetent and full of idiots. Some countries it invades it drops chemicals on the women and children of (example: agent orange) and these chemicals are still causing cancer in infants over half a century later. Other countries it uses depleted uranium dust that decimates the DNA of the women and children that live there - forever. That radioactive dust will retain it's radioactivity for the life of the planet. Regardless, that it losses war after war after war - it's still unknownable TRILLIONS. How is it paid? Oh, it's paid like Company B. By sticking a gun in your face and saying, pay us motherf*cker or go live in a rape-cage or get a bullet in the head. Interestingly enough, Company C works with Company B to ensure all the Tax-Cattle / Citizens OF the State continue to wave their idiotic flags and continue to pay a Tax against their Labor to maintain Companies B and C. These same Tax Cattle will spend endless hours hating on the one Company that actually works to serve them voluntarily: Company A.



Yes, it's all evil Company A's fault.
That's why children are shoveled into daycare from 3 weeks of age.
That's why there's been an explosion of prescription anti-depressants across the USSA.
Not the $100s of Billions squandered each and every year on Companies like B and C. No no no.... in the word-world all that matters is intention which is expressed in words. Words are all that matters. There are no limited-resources. Only sentences full of endless words. And if the words sound purdy, well, that's good enough.

Change We Can Believe In

Never mind the rise of Fascist Nationalism in France, thanks to the Progressive Socialism of the last idiotic - nope, never mind that. We have trains to fix because some moron ordered 100s of millions of dollars worth of them. Which is why we're not at home with our children. Can't be at home when you're fixing train tracks. So, those kids get to have day care supervisors for parents - and get to miss out on having a parent at home with them cuddling them, caring for them, kissing them. They get live in a daycare center during their formative years - and then get to be put on drugs so they can sit and drool onto a multiple choice tests that Company B concocted - then, as functional illiterates, they get to go work as a cog in a chain store or restaurant franchise somewhere where they're guaranteed a 'minimum' wage. And hey, isn't that worth a missed childhood and 12 years of Public "Schooling"? Isn't that worth the safety of being hyper-regulated? Isn't that worth the Military Industrial Complex and its never ending War on Terror/s et.al. Isn't that worth the ever expanding Prison Population. Yes, life is so wonderful in the USSA as a cog on the State guaranteed 'minimum' wage.

Down with Company A's! We need more B's and more C's - and maybe F's too!!!

 

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But it is capitalism. Not socialism.

That's quite possible. They mistrusted corporations a great deal, despised moneylenders, required that all financial organizations justify their existence in terms of the public good and abide by very restrictive charters specifying their allowable activities, and would never have permitted the kind of uncontrolled financial shenanigans we see in the centers of US power these days.

They thought that institutions like the US Post Office and sewer systems and roads and local poorhouses were among the most valuable services of government, whereas standing armies were an ominous threat that probably should not be permitted, and joint stock corporations should be organized for a defined purpose strictly time and task limited.

They would have much to think ill of, in this modern world.

 

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That's an error, not an example of the innate disability of socialism.

 

Why the false dilemma? A company that makes such errors go bankrupt. The State doesn't. This error is an example of the innate instability of State socialism.

If the people of France truly DO want a railroad - then they can build it without the threat of force and use of coercion to do so.
It's the same people.
It's the same resources.
The ONLY difference with a free-market company would be that voluntary agreements would lead to the creation of a railroad. That's it. Is it much harder to get everyone involved to agree? Yes, that's the price we pay for living in a free peaceful society. It's well worth it - that I promise.

Not that we have to worry about living in a free peaceful society. Not with Wars on Drugs, Terror, Literacy and the such to be waged by the State against the people - for our own good of course. Oh, and railroads to build.

 

No, bailing out GM is Progressive Socialism. In a free-market society the State COULDN'T bail out GM because it wouldn't be able to legally take on the debts to do so - as it wouldn't have any access to Labor tax fueled fiat currency within which to sell liability against the young in - as such a monstrosity wouldn't' exist.

So no, this IS the "Progressive Socialism" you want - now we all get to live poorer, with less civil liberty and less privacy for the privilege of the State bailing out its crony morally (and economically) bankrupt businesses.

 

Unfortunately Michael you don't know what free market capitalism is.

 

Capitalism versus Statism
Critiques of American Policies and Institutions, Left and Right. New York: Harper and Row, 1972, pp. 60-74.

Written forty two years ago. Trillions and Trillions of US Tax-Chattel Debt-based Federal Reserve Note Obligations later.... and for what!?
Almost everything on that list, 40 years later, is 1000x's WORSE.

They worried about wiretapping!?! Ha! What a joke - now the Government's NSA spies on and catalogs every single one of our financial records; and is compiling a database with all citizens biometrics: facial recognition of photographs, finger printing, soon to come retinal scans, and our DNA - anything and everything they can do to keep a close eye on their dumb-arse Tax-Chattel. Of course, the average Amoorikan couldn't care much one way or another. The average Amoorikan likes to waddle its far-arse down to the local fast-food chain (where they work) eat some fried pink-slime and then waddle back to their slum-lords rental slum unit the Government paying for.

They wouldn't know their US Constitutional protected rights if it smacked them in the face.


Oh, and what a laugh regarding Unions like UAW, they actually put GM out of business! But hey, the bailout ensured those that retired at age 47 get their $4000 a month. How nice of their grandchildren, working at a chain-store as a cog somewhere, to pick up the bill for them. GM had more cars recalled than sold in the USSA this year (by the way).


The only things that are better are (1) the telephone monopolies were (somewhat) broken up and we now have relatively decently affordable smart-phones as a result of it and it doesn't cost an arm and a leg to call 'long distance' which was just up the street and (2) the USPO has to compete and, as a result, we get better delivery and service for our money - and they'll probably go bust too (only to be bailed out).


Note how shit Government Schools are now, following some 30 years of The Department of "Education" (which costs the Tax Chattel a whooping $60-80 BILLION each and every year). And for what??? The Government has actually managed to reduce learning outcomes! It's gotten so bad now, nearly 1 in 5 Government Schooled Amooricans are functional illiterates (the perfect people for making those "informed" voting choices our nation depends and runs on - and one wonders why the Framers ensured they didn't get to vote AND limited the government they voted on). Oh, and have you seen the vitriol spewed by so-called Government "Teachers" (many get 13 month bonuses - even though, they themselves can barely read and write) when confronted with even the tiniest amount of competition vis–à–vis privately ran Charter Schools?! The Gods forbid a parent have the option to send their children to a non-Government school *GAAAASP!!!!*.


Progressive Socialism: Life on the hyper-regulated USSA Tax-Chattel Farm.

 

If you and your fellow libertarians had a case, you wouldn't need to redefine words and rewrite history in order to make sense of your ideology.

 

Don't blame Libertarians for your lacking lexicon.

 

Don't blame everyone else you need lie and redefine half the English dictionary(some hyperbole used to make a point)to make your ideology parable.its not the nonlibertarians who are redefining words left and right it you and yours. You lie constantly about politics economics and history. Like your progressive socialist rants prove you to be a ignorant lying individual you are. So at least have the decency to own it. But that's right I don't agree with your anti freedom procorporate free market extremism so that must mean I'm I'm a tax cattle who doesn't think. Grow up quit attacking every one who doesn't buy your bullshit. You don't like that people dislike your ideology rather than redefine words make a better argument preferably one you didn't get from reason magazine or the Von mises institute

 

I didn't say anything about 'pro-corporation'. As a matter of fact, being incorporated allows for all sorts of benefits and blessings of the State on those groups of individuals (such as cheaper tax rates than the laborer's who must pay to work for them).

So, let's be clear, being 'free' and having the 'freedom' as a 'free' person to non-violently interact with and form relationships with others around us, is in no way 'pro-corporation'. If anything, if you were to drill down, it's probably anti-corporation, given being incorporated is a Statist privileged. While I have no problem with legal entities, they certainly should be private affairs and have nothing to do with the State.


Anyway, now that we've put mother's to full-time 50 hours a week work (in our attempt to generate the labor-taxes needed to pay for all your "Progressive" Statist social projects: like the Department of "Education" (propaganda) or the Wars on Drugs or on Terror) it's time to milk our children too. Yup, right back to third world craphole status (well, many areas of the USSA are like 3rd world nations - see: 50 years of Democrap-run Detroit). So, now that mother's have been milked dry (pardon the pun) it's indeed time to put their 10 year old children to work too. They've been lazily enjoying 10 years of free-time starting with a life of being shoveled (in their third week of infancy) into Government licensed Child Supervision Factories to a good solid five years in Government Schools.... time to pay back our beloved State for all those 'State resources' they've utilized. You know, for the "Social Good". I mean, They use the roads!! Into the fields they go.

I suspect in the New Economy, the one where the State bails out criminal banking families and other Oligarchs (thanks Bush Jr and Obama Jr) that it'll be time to put those children (by aged 10 and up) back to work in the fields. Yup, someone's got to pay for all those Oligarchs your beloved State just looooooves to bail out for "The Social Good". And hey, if you play the State's way, maybe you can be a Slum-Lord. Just kiss the ring of your Political Masters and maybe they'll let you be a Slum-Lord.... or not. Thus the default in the USSA is an assigned position as Tax Chattel in the State Tax-Pen.


So, the next leg down is 10 year old children's working rights! They deserve a "livable" wage and a fair work environment for their chain-store overlords! Yes, workers right's for the 10 year olds! A child's gotta eat!

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Thank the Gods for Amoorika!
Land of the Government Schooled functional illiterate.
Home of the waddle.

 

Yes we do, it's in the Constitution.

 

The dictionaries that have been used for centuries and continue to be used work just fine. You should learn to use them sometime. And you should use the appropriate words, because they do exist. There is no need to redefine words unless you are attempting to deceive people.

 

But no one had to bail out GM. This was a decision we made, but there's nothing about the premises of Democratic Socialism that says we have to do that. (Or loan money to ourselves to stimulate the economy).

 

I would argue 'we' did not make any decisions.

It's not the role of the federal government to bailout corrupt derelict car manufacturers.
Further, we are supposed to live in a Limited Republic, not a socialist democracy. It's also not the role of the Federal Government to 'stimulate' the economy.

Oh well, people don't want to live free in a limited republic, they'd prefer to live highly regulated as tax-chattel in an oligarchy - so that's what will happen.

 

You would make a terrible businessman because you don't look at costs.

 

And if outright Slavery was in the Constitution you'd what? Just accept it?
Anyway, you can give up your Citizenship and live as a US National. Then you don't have to pay labor-tax as you're no longer a Citizen/Property OF the State. Which is interesting. Perhaps we need another "Law" or "Regulation" preventing American "Citizens" from giving up their Citizenship? You people are always talking about how 'you can leave' when you don't see to get, there's plenty of American who have - legally living right besides you, using the roads, the sewers, the schools, etc...

Anyway, that wasn't my point, I meant we as a people. We don't HAVE to be tax-slaves. For over a hundred years Americans did not have to pay a Central Bank just to work. And *GASP* we ushered in the modern age. We CAN organize ourselves differently. Again, the Federal Government does NOT create anything (other than paperwork). It's a poorly run redistribution machine used to steal the product of the laborer and give to a small oligarchy (of which many belong to). This is what ALL governments do - for all of history. That's their role.
Democratic ones, Monarchical ones, Republican ones, etc....
But, you are correct, so long as the US Constitution retains the 16th amendment, laborer's will continue to pay the State for the privilege to work as tax-slaves.


Not that any of this matters. People normalize. Between mouth fulls of meat boiled from the bones of their own starving children, North Koreans praise wonderful Dear Leader. And marvel at the wonderful Socialist paradise they live in. American mother's shovel their three week old fetuses into State sanctioned day-supervision factories to hurry off to work (someone's got to pay to bailout the plutocrats) and then put their kids on anti-psychotic medications as the progress into MCQ laden Government Schools and marvel at being the 'freest-est people to have ever lived' and get pissy if you call Bush Jr a war criminal or refer to o-Blah-Blah as another one.

 

GM is a corrupt mismanaged mess - if it has anything of value, then let other's buy those pieces. Why should the working poor bailout out the stock-holders of GM? They shouldn't. As for cost, the Department of Education wastes $80 BILLION dollars each and every god damn year - and our education is worse than it's ever been. Every single year the quality drops, lower and lower. How about the $5 TRILLION wasted on the phony wars in the middle east. Or the hundreds of billions wasted to spy on American Citizens. Or the $100 TRILLION wasted in this alarmist phony "Cold War".


At the end of the day, most American mother's can no longer afford to remain home with their children. You children's generation is the first in American history to live poorer than the one that proceeded them. Fist time in history. All thanks to their idiotic self-centered parents. Do explain that one Joe - how is it that your generation was able to live way beyond your means? Your generation has made up the last 5 presidential terms. Starting with the f*ckwit Clinton.

Just letting you know what your generation will be remembered for. The one that destroyed America. Spoilt whinny me me me "Baby" boomers indeed.


Oh, and, do enlighten us as to how bailing out GM and losing $13 BILLION dollars/federal reserve banking promissory notes (+ interest) was 'cost effective'. It should be noted GM recalled more cars than they sold this year, they'll be filing for bankruptcy again, soon enough. Maybe we should just keep bailing them out, over and over again. Yes, that's 'cost effective'. Oh, and we should put in a lot tax-payer funded social 'safety nets' - those are cost effective. Particularly now that GM has pretty much closed up shop and kids get to 'work' as greeters at Walmart - and their income tax gets to pay for the bailout of their parents who's unions and managerial incompetence and corruption destroyed GM. Yes, what we don't want is the parents to go live in the shit slums of Flint like their tax-cattle children. No. We need to bailout "GM". Wouldn't want all those retiree's trading in their houses for units in Flint with the poor. Or coming out of retirement and working at McDonald's. No no no no.... that won't do. No, the 'Cost Effective' way to do things is the 'bailout' the corrupt and the greedy and stick the working-poor with the bill.


Of course, thanks to Government Schooling, hyper-regulations and licencing, the working poor are shit out of luck. And with State and it's Central Bank spying with it's police state - they needn't worry about much other than living and dying as the tax-chattel they are in the USSA tax-pen they had the misfortune of being born into.

 

And people still don't pay the central bank for the right to work. In fact working stiffs don't pay a penny to the central bank for anything. The central bank puts hundreds of billions into the US Treasury.