Science and Religion: A brief introduction

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  1. alan shaw Registered Member

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    If Science is willing to comment on whether they will accept my invitation to consider that if its pupose is to uncover the truth so that they can help humanity to primarily mean themselves to be the most importat factor that decides if they will share their wisdom and therefore knowledge that is declared by Science will illustrate why our own world also remains to be a force of destruction that perhaps could be altered to at least address this single point to at least be agreed or contrasted with w will be certainly no be adequate unless it it
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    (knowledge from) the careful studyof the structure and behaviour of thephysical world, especially by watching,measuring, and doing experiments, and the development of theories to describethe results of these activities:

    understanding of or information about a subject that you get by experienceor study, either known by one person or by people generally:
     
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  3. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Firstly, this is not physics or maths. We have more appropriate sections for something like this.

    Secondly, it is very hard to work out what you are trying to say if you do not write in complete sentences. Would you be able to try again with a few full stops and capital letters, so that readers can work out where one thought ends and the next one starts?
     
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  5. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    Psychology? Economics?
     
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  7. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Haha, very good. I was thinking Religion or Philosophy, depending on what the poster is getting at.

    But that is presuming he is not a nutcase, of course. I must admit that " .....w will certainly no be adequate unless it it *9....." has a certain covfefe quality about it.

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  8. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    We need a new sub-forum under The Fringe section called "word salad".
     
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  9. alan shaw Registered Member

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    This is one definition of many sources to all be defined without maintaining a definition that should be the duty to be held by an appointed number of senior fellows that they believe to be representative to include amongst its most recent and significant contributors to hold this responsibility as a torch of pride that can therefore be comparable to its other methods to be Religion, or Unawareness to be distinguishable by its institutions to be controlled and influenced by what primarily serves the belief that humans are inferior and limited in its pursuits to all be decided by their overall support to promote worship to the will of God to only ever be known when it occurs to include everything to always require a belief that it will always allow for Evil to be the force that they will have to choose to recognise that God will always be who knows and controls the past and the future and the present to all be certain to require what each person will choose to serve his personal benefit to be what a single unambiguous God that is the only one who protects the rights of all those who are part of the world that has set its systems of power and freedoms to never be allowed to occur except in the realms of the clergy of God to be those that lead this worship and prayer by an elected council of Government that must only ever be from amongst those who have vowed to the oath of allegiance to God to be what their reality to be a method that achieves equality and freedom to pursue their happiness to be an achievable goal that will never require pain or suffering to actually be a pleasure that is for each moment to be your own suffering to be overcome by to be a bondage that one can exist by liberating themselves from pain and suffering to only occur in infinity or nonthingness to be the unawarenessof the moments that are each a c new config of the universe to be a moment in which we change.
     
  10. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    OK, this is nonsense. You appear to be deranged.

    Reported with a request to move out of hard science sections.
     
  11. alan shaw Registered Member

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    I apologise the above was a draft .......... In the interest of the below to end up getting the ordering of the drafts to be wat are not my arrogance or my faulty keyboard but i hope someone will let me not even allow for my limited time to be a victim card that it is but if watever the worst i can appear to you to be called the red numero f -bus on dalas d row by eg nirf HT to acknowledged.

    I wish to perhaps use this short window before i will have my next dose of medication to be not even the only problem or difficulty but wen u awake in shock to try and eventually find out that u know who is speaking and still will hope that although we dont have the luxury of some of the drugs that i believe are smoked or injected or others to mostly be due to one of us in childhood to dying in what i dont fully remember but i have my older sister to have finally have found something to aid her and yet she is sick and with very little chance to ever recapture her glorydays to have also

    been a short period of my own which i will add that i am also auditing what may all seem to too 2


    Some of the comments i had thought were certainly due to science having people that i happen to know is a fool beyond belief except for myself being a humble fool if you are too or 2 or to are won or one or 1 or thee three or 3.




    BELOW is a draft of what i was going to send but would have limited to first accepting my errors as requiring correction that was only perhaps at a later stage to have offered my genuine alternatives to be a logical evolution of written forms to at least be shortened to keep up with wat might be a different pace or manner of communication that i hope the following might be contenders for wat i hope i will be wrong and hav even better coding of written language .

    Why wud 2 languages be so unwilling to insist on any further discussion about why their math is not just a different spelling of our maths. Its a claim to the singular form of maths to the one that ours must be indicating at least 2 to be what could be a meaning to define math to perhaps only be the form that all math is only ever maths.

    If i defend what is a part of what i wish to discuss to already be tempted to walk away and mock rather than consider that there is only one way to benefit any discussion and that must be to allow the debate to be presented only after it had rewritten it to at least be awarded the seal of human knowledge to currently be at a state of having no human to have provided any agreement in any sector about even the most basic debates to be stuck at 2 geniuses to think that they are better suited to discussing a world that they alone describe and yet while it may have served the purpose of each wanting to be just not disturbed while they were thinking while others were creating or playing or achieving or winning or losing or praying with an assurance of their pursuit to be for the benefit of something much bigger than suffering to be the fault of the what was a choice that greater effort and perserverance and intellect and compassion and even a little luck to be unnecessary if they even suspected they had been given a moment of clarity by a voice or a lifelong interest to hope that these are not the exact reasons that somewhere someone had misunderstood to mean that they were evil or stupid or maybe just asleep when they all are victims and require hospitalisation but are stripped of their lives to not even be offered an equal standard of basic health or the disease of shooting one another bcs they thought that the people were terrorists and cant believe a sandwich looked like a gun to them although they do admit they were aware of what they wre doing bcs of having faster reflexes and a bit of evil to be why this is not their first shooting but they are at least able to be getting stronger now to get over their addiction to a moment of calm that their medicines side affects to be why they accept execution and pray to the lord to forgive them but as the judge sentences him to prison i hope that they are doing everything that is logical to base that while killer a is mad b is justice and c is bad d is evil they are at least proud to have a branch of experts in psychology to be the ones who they trust to have better judgement themselves to just be proud of all the murderers they have removed from harming the innocent. but yet are they sure that murder cant be prevented.

    Im still editting and in the interest of noone panicking at y they may wish to oppose wat will be their own work also if they tackle this.

    the reason i dont use all grammar is nothing to do with my carelessness or lack of education or bad memory or even ifi have a doctor with me as i try to use my hands to have a separate awareness and am trying for them to be illustrative of both pain that might not kill a boxer but is allowed to be tired whilst fighting. and for all those who do drugs to have no unsderstanding of why i hav an image of a pale gaunt skinny person who injects something that shud feel like they r coming but if it is like anything i can imagine itto be, i had tried alcohol one period and needed ppl to talk to me and tell me if they wanted to give me company on my first few experiences of alcohol o have been even better than i thought. --+





    This is an important model that describes the parameters of a number to be defined as only having a value that is 1n and 3n or 1n and 2n or 2n and 3n where comparative model



    of that i had to recover and hence was sent as only a part of what is interesting though for us to consider that whereas it is true that there are grammar rules that apply to how some or many might have only ever known to occur in that set format. There are also instances when it is unfair to dismiss or discourage what i am merely defending hypothetical possibilities of what i hope that we as people in collaboration cannot take this to be a counter attack to be what i hope you will accept my apology when i have failed to comprehend the parts of what i hope i will be incorrect or correct to both be a pleasant redirection rather than insisting that we analyze exactly what went wrong to maybe indicate that for this not to be physics or math to be exactly what I was illustrating in the matter of definitions. I will in the meantime see if i can check its sent 'state' to have not even checked but still have personal opinions about language itself being limited to a rate of evolution to certainly not be in its simplest form to serve communication between ppl (surely any breaks to decipher minor grammatical errors to be the least of what is acceptable in any discussion that wud want to explore the views that may be incorrect or by a child or a foreign writer or ill person to all be just an example of my unedited words to begin like this but i accept that as much as i now force wud cud and i and shud as wat r clearly better to allow language to have flexibilitee in spelllingz to be far less of a concern than wat i hope u can pls try and comment on whether

    these are only drafts sent as a way to guage if i can be disabled or confused or about the period of a plane crash cesna172 at age16 to have first been taught by malcolm mongomerrie to have motivated me to travel to deervalley az taught by mike ream to have needed a car to drive to the airfield and for someone from uk to see a big black pickuptruck with a price of£400 i thought was good even if i drove it for a week, but i hadnt t started lessons yet in uk(18) but 16 or 17 in us was put more at ease wen i saw the kid who was driving it to seem easy but i told him ill have to get it checked but cudnt get my friend for a few days to check it but needed it. i decided kid to kid that i didnt know much about car engines and i dont even know what somebody wud be looking for and wud be suprised if someone cud know if it had a day left to have nothing exposed that was intricately imaginable for the engine to sound healthy. he said take it for keeps 300 and handed me the keys. he insisted he will stay with me until i was happy but i was trying to work out the gears and clutch to be different to auto that i hadnt seen many times but it turned out there was no clutch as i fidled with wat was the easiest thing to drive and
     
  12. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    I stopped reading after the second paragraph; I still believe that could be some constructive criticism.
     
  13. alan shaw Registered Member

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    Lets define words to be the propoition that this body of academia that is commonly ensuring that if they can clarify why they are not calling me deranged or nonsense but saying that i am deranged nonsense.

    Dont worry about me honestly thinking that you had wanted me to think that and shud listen to the ones who are grateful but they have already done this and it will be revealed when i will have to try and learn how to speak first because i am rude and unclear but sorry.

    So regarding the defining of physics can u just remind me in the interest of those that are late and may have to find it in every dictionary to be unambiguously identical by way of simply have aimed each dictionary to have had physics to be the key word for us 2day. PHYSICS looks like psychics to be similar enough to almost be to asssist us to look carefully. The fact that we dont have a dictionary nor a psychic that knows physics but does physics know psychic.

    Last point with apology and respect and gratitude can they just let me know if they want my class to be given this answer to mean that they are gettingclever but not there. So that the class are clear now, please provide your understanding pf what exactly do you think is a good example of physics to occur as itself to mean that i can pick ant of the meanings in any of the main dictionaries to be viewed with my eyes to see that the source of trhe definition isn something that is based in somewhere that was updated onsometime based on the committee of physics to hereby define it.

    ok thanks hope we will all get it soon


    This sentence that you alone can verify whether you are who you say you are but assuming that you are it is only your good intentions to be why you are here. Even the conspiracy theorists might agree that that if anyone is in control of our world to at least have kept us all to have merely been trying to help then that they will accomodated as soon as i can.

    In the meantime i hope that they might find some meaning in at least some part to be turned into what i was supposed to have said.

    Can someone remind me which definition of maths and physics we are using at this moment. Is it a particular decription by a particular dictionary or is it a generalised understanding that most scientists know and so im certainly just forgetting and supposing that their are various dictionaries that i could turn to and find various meanings to at least hope that i am incorrect about everything and will wonder if the word 'physics' is of an importance to our academic institutions that have made it so clear that they are the ones who define it and it appears in all of the meanings to be identical but written with different words so that if one definition is not understood then we can switch to the next.

    The question is should each word that describes their faculty be annually reviewed and ensured to been selected as the definition that all dictionaries arent let loose on every word to ever exist to continue to persist in this endeavour and propose that you or someone has a better idea.

    Lets define words



    I hope you will accept that for you to please clarify if i am understanding correctly that for someone whose every keystroke and movement due to the movement to the shift key and repressing the i is just one of the actions that i have to implement due to being disabled. Not mentally but then again its probably going to either leave us succeeding partially if i reciprocate that i will edit this

    I will try and get this done as soon as i can.

    Can you please forgive me for highlighting that it will be wen we r further .

    But before i have to endure and respond to claiming that this isnt physics or math, it would be useful if they would at least explain why it is not and if they are certain then pls forgive me for this debacle of my browser and an app causing a crash and there is perhaps alot more than physics and maths to be faculties who are responsible for ensuring that at least their own institutions has an established system of being the appointee of their science to be defined with fixed parameters that must be satisfied to be the only definition that i hope they willshow me that actually maybe i was mistaken for which i apologise.

    But if it is ridiculously incomprehensible what i am saying when i dont even know how to spell but can cast but if the more important issue is nothing and im a little boy playing a game then i apologise for all of the above. But if that is what you have decided then i will hope i understand correctly that it will better if the meaning may subtly change and not be what i intended to say to be a risk that i will then return wen im ready. A friend of mine died recently crying to the lord why he had done this to him . But anyhow i am a little ill with my typing to be causing a few problems that include wat will hope i can be indulged some time on some basis before i will that accept that all of us were perhaps hasty in our attacks and defends to maybe be me only so i apologise in advance of all)



     
  14. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    Translation software still isn't very good (apparently).
     
  15. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    I believe your first suggestion is appropriate, word salad section?
     
  16. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Science constructs models based on experimental and observational data, it is not interested in your truth per se. The more successfuly predicitve that model is, the more it aligns with the experimental and observational data, the more positive that model/theory becomes...eg: The BB, SR/GR, the Theory of Evolution.
     
  17. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    My good sir, if you tacit transparency in my attempt, we may if you will experience what we may accomplish together.
     
  18. alan shaw Registered Member

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    Maybe im understanding everything incorrectly. Are you calling me nonsense to go away and if i survive come back.

    I know you are the ones who taught me but i must have an unseen part of my disability to be causing me to wonder if they are quite correct and i think that we will try and find out for u one day to be first better if i go and see if i have a brain to be the first check that will possibly identify one of the problems.

    Has e scientist that physics calls einstein got anything to do with physics to be the next possible question that i hope i dont get 2 in a row to be wrong.

    Is there any particular reason that physics is not willing to include biology to be a possible part of what can be or is already a part of physics. It sounds like physical to have thought that was a clue but maybe it is impossible for anything physical to be a part of physics bcs the physical body that we see in the stars could be many things but it is not a planet bcs a body is nobody unless it is human to be due to any other body of thought except for the human body we thought we ought to have fought but not become naught and nought to be our note and is not e. E is mc squared. this was the greatest discovery in physics that there wasnt a single man on earth up until Einstein to have even perhaps been a direct descendant of Jesus and so while therest of earths men had wondered if they could demonstrate that they are intelligent if they perhaps could propose a theory about relativity to leave even some normal people to wonder if they were tired or had they just seen a new word to be discovered that was describing the theory of relativity just as the theory of words and their meanings had been printed worldwide to be known that a concept can have a word that describes its meaning. but the word is a concept that proposes that it is comprised withhyrogliyphic symbols known as letters which are each defined to have a range of sounds to include : but not have every sound of a hat can occur in the other symbols next to the words pronounciation to be so important that we have defined it to avoid the ridiculous insult to suggest that a i am a prince who is not alone a prince hence we are princes who have a princess and there are also others who may have a princess. But the scissors that we meant are the scissors' that have red handles and so although our princesses that had a scissors with a red handle it is only the princes' scissors' handles' that we recommend to use to edit.

    Sorry i got confused ab0ut physics only when i think about an atom that was first proven to be something that someone had thought it was something else but there was a great mind who lived in history to have wondered if he cared about our god who we believe is the God and not any other god but God bcs he had not only been seen by princes' princesses'scissor's handle that your prince's princess's scissors' handles' that were first designed by a priestess so that she could use her priest with a red handle to kill the fishes that the priest wud eat
     
  19. alan shaw Registered Member

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    i hope that i will just try and break this down to be sure that i understand each part of this sentence to mean exactly what you mean to say and if you are saying this to me as the person who has been authorized to represent Science as an academic institution in the world to today define it in a way that you propose to define what the specific requirements that a science must satisfy in order to distinguish what your science has been named Science with a capital S to indicate that it is a science but it is not the only science, but whatever science that has experiments to mean that it is a set of specific environmental variables that have been isolated to then alter and see how matter and events that can be observed to include the human eye but also other tools that a science can propose to be the matter that the tool responds to produce that matter to be identical in its change to the specified matter.

    does this require for the data to be required to only be either observational or experimental or does the data require to be always observational even if its method of detection is not yet authorized by the science to refer to the specific data that it wishes to propose to include the process of thinking or feeling or perceiving in a particular way that any group who would first satisfy the defined requirements of the group to adhere to in order for the effect to be experienced.

    If the value of alignment to the theory is based on the number participants in an experiment was repeated to the same participant would each repeated detection with the variable of time before they had last slept or eaten or been allowed to think or given the tools to think or even provided with any common experience of their distance to academia to be variable in race age wealth and also of great value would be their last certificate of sanity to perhaps be what i would be concerned to offer to the academia of psychology to greatly respected for trying as was the academia of tradition and societal norms as was the academia of logic and freedom, but yet the results would certainly be interested to know if the academic institutions of human behaviour or any significant areas that you might propose as being reasonable to a level that its experimental data is subject to the same influences and ones without certain influences to fair to deny and a respectable science must be impartial i imagine but are these parameters beyond the scope of a science that is called Science and yet is there any reason that Science believes its proposals of theories that always include certain elements whilst others are excluded for a narrow range to then be ordinarily expected to devalue the theory but yet would myself propose a different goal that should be set to be a possible improvement in its direction towards logical reasoning to be a very strong observational effect on people who have been denied basic standards of life to never be allowed to manipulate resources to any level that steps over the line of a specific setof burdens to have been denied to specific groups of people to be unfair particularly if science and government and religion have all been granted oversight of their lack of resolve to the powerful elites to not even consider that we dont propose that we take away your power and your luxuries but instead to investigate the benefits of logic that examples i will provide but if the

    language is hopefully excused but willing to elaborate over a period of increased dialogue
     
  20. alan shaw Registered Member

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    whereas this didnt require a depth of definition as wat i understood earlier, it certainly feels like a language i better comprehend.

    will need to start summarizing into smaller bits in my subsequent drafts that have been published to be the only natural and fairer response to have only perhaps become oversensitive to what i feel is unacceptale inclusion of a 3rd important defined reality to become equipped with to make progress to never offend the need and the right of the elite to remain invisible and disptoportionately powerful but accept that we too would build space rockets to escape the madness, but we think that we might be able to oppose injustices by not attacking the monarchy or the democracy of intrinsic dictarships to simply ease the burdens on all of its citizens to include those that r mad but left to their accolade of circumstance to be both our racial and religiously respected equality

    QUOTE="Seattle, post: 3488405, member: 271333"]My good sir, if you tacit transparency in my attempt, we may if you will experience what we may accomplish together.[/QUOTE]
     
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    When government, dare I say as in to include exclusion of God and Man is when as we mention Science to be similar and other ways emotion and not rigid in thinking.
     
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  22. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    My hovercraft is full of eels.
     
  23. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    I was actually giving you the benefit of the doubt and reply at least scientifically, and you come back with that fucking total word salad. Sorry for my attempt.
     

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