Santa Claus is not Black kids

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  5. C C Consular Corps - "the backbone of diplomacy" Valued Senior Member

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    A tuxedoed avian might have the added advantage of even satisfying PETA and wriggling in an otherwise untenable episode theme for a Batman villain.... But I'd still opt for either a space-alien Santa (blue-skinned) or a robot Santa. Ah shucks, I guess the latter would be ripping-off Futurama, though.
     
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    "For all you kids watching at home, Santa just is white. But this person is maybe just arguing that we should also have a black Santa. But, you know, Santa is what he is, and just so you know, we're just debating this because someone wrote about it, kids."​


    This is why my kids will never watch Fox News. She also went on to say that Jesus was white. For good measure of course.
     
  9. kwhilborn Banned Banned

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    Yeah. With nothing better to gripe about all the anti-racists will start banning Santa Claus no matter what skin colour he is.

    Jesus did spend most of his life in Africa, who knows. According to Tiassa's one drop rule I suppose everybody is black.
     
  10. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    My first thought. Was Fox News using irony?
    It is amazing to think that people can be so ignorant.
    They are paid for being stupid.

    Jesus wasn't white. He was light brown at most.
    The word often used is "dusky".
    He was from the Middle East.
    Also, as a wandering preacher, his clothes would have been dirty and torn, not the snazzy stuff you see on stained glass.
    (The only exception was when he visited his home town Nazareth
    when his mum would have washed and sewn them.)

    @Kwhill
    I'm almost afraid to ask.
    Jesus spent most of his life in Africa?
     
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  12. kwhilborn Banned Banned

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    @ CK,

    The Jesus comment in post 6 was in reference to Jesus comment in post 5.

    I think Jesus attended the same Schools in Egypt as Plato/Archimedes, etc. His teachings have a profound resemblance to "Law of Attraction" type teachings we know was coming out of Egypt. There are a zillion websites that compare them.

    Try searching "Jesus 'Law of Attraction'" and see what pops up. I am too busy atm to expand on this thought.

    I know it is logical and easy to assume everyone was dirty pre-washing/sewing machine, but I recall a fantastic book series I read as a youngster (and reread as adult) called "Clan of the Cave Bear". I now believe that every society had methods of living clean and in comfort despite travel.

    It is alleged that Jesus wore a robe without seams. The entire robe was woven into one piece. Do any of us have seamless clothing? I know I don't. I think they did better than you suggest.

    The OP is about claiming Santa is a racist idea and he should be replaced with a giant penguin. In a few hundred years everyone on earth will look Hawaiian so it won't matter.

    Kids should be told Santa is Magic and can be whatever colour he wants to be.
     
  13. arauca Banned Banned

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    We need a Mexican Santa with a big sombrero and a traje de Charro on a horse , and he will say instead Ho ho ho , he will say Arriba arriba chiquito .
     
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    Do you know what the 'one drop rule' actually is?

    It doesn't mean that spending time around Africans or black people will result in taking on their colour.

    If he existed, he would have been born in the now Middle East, not Europe. Which means he would have looked like all the other people living there. In other words, not white, with blue eyes and light brown hair like the retard from Fox seems to believe.
     
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    I had a poncho as a kid. It was seamless. Just a piece of cloth with a hole in it for your head.
     
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    @ bells,

    Do you think I or anyone believes skin colour is contagious?

    I did not know what the one drop rule was until recently. It does seem ridiculous.

    I agree Jesus most likely had Middle Eastern features, and even Egyptians seemed to have middle Eastern type skin colour based upon Figurines and artwork from that era.

    Nothing is known about Jesus except from the bible and various scrolls. It is alleged they fled to Egypt to avoid Herods death squads, but that is not proven.

    I suppose I should not suggest it is possible he was black if it upsets your religious views, but Africa is roughly 80% black so I was suggesting based on percentages it is feasable Jesus was black. Not really I guess as then the bible would have racism in the mix and the would not have waited so long to crucify him.

    The truth is nobody knows for sure what colour Jesus was, and nobody should care.

    You do not need to be white to have blue eyes.

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    @ Billvon,

    I have a number of blankets with neck holes in them / Ponchos. They are ideal for boating or campfires if the weather gets cool. A good old fashioned wool army blanket is ideal.
     
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    Ha!

    1) Jesus never existed - so he wasn't 'white' or black, brown, blue, green.
    2) Saint Nikolaos of Myra was Greek. At least he did exist.
     
  18. arauca Banned Banned

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    If Jesus did not existed so Saint Nicolas nor I would exist
     
  19. Bells Staff Member

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    I have to agree with Jon Stewart...

    Unless of course she believes in Santa, in which case.. Heh!!
     
  20. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    The same retard was on today claiming that Santa was mythical, and that she was talking about the Corporate representation of Santa.
    If she keeps digging at this rate, she'll be able to tell us about the Chinese Santa.

    The commercial version of Santa was invented by Coca Cola in 1931

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    Saint Nicholas (Greek: Ἅγιος Νικόλαος, Hagios Nikólaos, Latin: Sanctus Nicolaus); (15 March 270 – 6 December 343),[3][4] also called Nikolaos of Myra, was a historic 4th-century Christian saint and Greek[5] Bishop of Myra (Demre, part of modern-day Turkey) in Lycia. Because of the many miracles attributed to his intercession, he is also known as Nikolaos the Wonderworker (Νικόλαος ὁ Θαυματουργός, Nikolaos ho Thaumaturgos).

    He had a reputation for secret gift-giving, such as putting coins in the shoes of those who left them out for him, and thus became the model for Santa Claus, whose modern name comes from the Dutch Sinterklaas, itself from a series of elisions and corruptions of the transliteration of "Saint Nikolaos". His reputation evolved among the faithful, as was common for early Christian saints.[6] In 1087, part of the relics (about half of the bones) were furtively translated to Bari, in Apulia, Italy; for this reason, he is also known as Nikolaos of Bari. The remaining bones were taken to Venice in 1100. His feast day is the 6th of December.

    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...1oHIAQ&usg=AFQjCNGIcNv11Pfu0Pl9mY9LlptAnVxzFQ


    And this is the man that jolly ole Santa Clause was named after.
     
  22. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    The murals of Saint Nicholas sure don't make him look that "white". If he was turkish (by modern standards) its hard to seem him as some red cheeked fat man chugging a cola!
     
  23. C C Consular Corps - "the backbone of diplomacy" Valued Senior Member

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    Superman's Perry White has become black. Sherlock's Watson has become a Chinese-American woman. Once the "copyright" runs out on intellectual property / fictional characters, or the financial compensation is satisfactory to the heirs, they're all open to massive mutability. Saint Nick has been a developing process throughout the centuries, anyway, the "legend" element mutating one twist after another from the original historical figure (thus how he crazily wound up running a toy factory at the North Pole).

    Whether or not the current state of "Santa" is turned into a hermaphroditic polar bear or a robot (minus the homicidal tendencies of the one in Futurama), so as to generate an ethnic/gender appeasing neutrality or blandness -- it could well be a deceptive outcome. Since pop-marketing ventures will be the actual driving forces profiting from it. Business hijacked political correctness, multi-culturalism, feminism, and the rest of the postmodern menu a long time ago.

    Remember when "Ripley" only came into being by chance because the role was originally written for a male actor [gee, a lady in a horror flick who actually slayed the monster rather than the prior tradition of standing idly by screaming]; or when the Trekkie producers kept Kathryn Janeway's hair tied into a bun because they were conservatively worried about the reaction to a female captain of a starship? All that queasiness over matriarchal leadership, butch-acting females and ultra-violent women agents/rogues rapidly forgotten once capitalism realized that guy audiences were readily receptive to them when packaged as a cross between leggy models and artificially enhanced porn stars. Yes, leave it to the commercial-value creating think-tanks of industry to "helpfully" push ideological movements into hyperdrive at the cost of distorting / perverting them into another consumer-mesmerizing advertising scheme or community-integrating fellowship sale / festive event.

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