Same sex marriage officialy legal through all of Canada Today

But isn't that exactly what gays are trying to do? Of course it is! You're trying to dictate to us straights how marriage is to be defined .....when we've already done it to our satisfaction.

Straight males can't marry males, gay males can't marry males.

Ain't no discrimination at all ...none!

Baron Max

 

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Yes, it is. You are discriminating against males that want to marry males.
Get a fucking clue, you Nazi prick, this is the modern world. They're here, they're queer, who give a shit.
Stupid nazi conservative bullfuck drivel like yours is part of the reason humanity is going down the shit-pipe!

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I give a shit ....and so does the greater majority of citizens of the USA. Need any more?

Oh, and thanks so much for your kind words about me ....I appreciate it.

Baron Max

 

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You seem to be forgetting the fact that the majority of US citizens are prudes and morons, who largely don't know shit. You included.
USA is not the world, you know, there are other people out there who are smarter, and have a better understanding of humanity that the greater population of the US.

 

I think allowing it might be justifiable, but evicting a tenant based upon sexual preference would be hard to justify. In some cases, such as when the tenant is using the property to directly commt serious crimes, such as operating a crack house, then eviction might be necessary, but homosexuals aren't using the property to commit crimes or even sins.

OK, why aren't you a husband? Could the state call you a husband?

The word duty somehow implies action. All I meant was, two men in a loving relationship don't meet my definition of marriage, just as three men in a loving relationship doesn't yours, at least I think it doesn't. It doesn't matter how much love or activity these three men do, they can never be married.

 

You're comparing apples to oranges here, Okinrus. The young and particularly old are kept out of the army because we don't trust 12 year olds with guns, or being responsible to make sure that materials show up where they need to be so that other people don't die - when it comes to life or death we generally want adults with some reasonable level of maturity to be handling these things. Alternately we also don't want a fat guy with a bad back and poor short-term memory. The easiest way to do this is to make reasonable age restrictions.

In marriage on the other hand is a contract between two people and not a social service. As such there is no valid reason to bar homosexuals from entering into it.

Please stop taking Barron Max's lead and throwing out comopletely nonsensical analogies which only fit if you jam them together really hard and then hope that no one takes a close look.

 

On a federal level it has only been this way since 1996 and 30 someod states which have amended their constitutions within the last four years. "One man and one woman" is a very recent piece of rhetoric.

Also legally speaking, nothing is ever set in stone, and all you've done here is point out the meat of the issue which the gay-rights movement is attempting to address at the moment. We want these laws repealed.

 

And is this merely a personal philosophical or theological opinion, an actionable opinion for public policy, or do you even draw a line between the two?

 

Would that also include men being permitted in the women's restrooms and lockers? Is that not a form of discrimination against men? How should we fight that discrimination?? Or why shouldn't we fight it?

Straight men can't marry males, gay males can't marry males.

That is not discriminating against anyone! It's equal rights for both. In regard to marriage, gays are treated exactly the same as straight, normal males ....no discrimination! Perfectly equal rights under the law.

Baron Max

 

I knew when comparing marriage with military service there were differences, butboth institutions have requirements. We expect a soldier to be athletic, to be fairly young, and to not be fat and have a poor back. On the other hand, some expect marriage to be between a man and a wife, others expect it to be between two people.

The laws on books about marriage were between a man and woman unless previously stated. To me, unless qualified, marriage is between a man a wife.

Well, both. First, my theological definition might be stricter; there are people, of couirse, who are married in the eyes of the law but who are not married, never married. They usually get divorced after two years or so. But this type of theological definition is not enforcible. Second, as a personal definition that doesn't infringe on any one else's rights or religion, it's suitable for public policy. But so is definitions that marriage be between two people, or three people for that matter. People when faced with all fair definitions choose the one that is either most beneficial to them or to society.

 

One of my many problems with this is that I believe in order for me to accept Gay marriage and Adoption, means that I accept homosexuals as being normal. No different than me (heterosexuals) but (in my opinion) there's a huge difference that's unacceptable by me, which in turn, makes me disagree with the gay marriage thing. Here's some extreme examples why.

http://www.queermarriage.com/index.php?content=Timeline
http://www.edifyingspectacle.org/weblog/archives/ambiguously_gendered/unrealized_sexuality_gay_.php
oprah winfrey show
5-6 and 5-7-2003 My Husband Became A Woman! DAY ONE: Jenny always knew that she wanted to be a woman, even though she was born male. To her students and wife she was known as James before the operation. Once she became a woman, everyone accepted her and she insists that she has always been attracted to women, just born in the wrong body. Jenny is also the parent of two kids with Grace and although they remained married after the sex change, they are no longer intimate. DAY TWO: Like Jenny, Tom always felt he should have been a woman. He also married and had children, but the secret was let out when his wife, Angelita, found his female clothes in the garage. Tom, now Tami, takes hormones and is scheduled to have a sex change in 2004. Angelita said she wants to stay with Tami.
http://cms.psychologytoday.com/articles/pto-19990301-000030.html
http://www.filmakers.com/GAY.html
Adventures in the Gender Trade: A Case for Diversity
Kate Bornstein, writer and performer, was born a man. This documentary presents her frank account of her personal journey from unhappy boy child into liberated transsexual lesbian. (more)

Homosexual, or gay, refers to people whose sexual and romantic feelings are mostly for the same gender: Men who are attracted to men, and women who are attracted to women.
Lesbian refers to women who are homosexual.
Bisexual or "bi" refers to people whose sexual and romantic feelings are for both genders.
Transgender is an umbrella term that encompasses a diversity of gender expression including drag queens and kings, bi-genders, crossdressers, transgenderists, and transsexuals.
Transvestites are people who like to dress like members of the opposite sex.
Transsexuals are people who feel that their anatomical sex does not match the gender with which they identify.
Bigender refers to people who define themselves as having the behavioral, cultural or psychological characteristics associated with both the male and female genders.
Transgenderist describes someone who is gender variant or transgresses gender norms as part of their lifestyle or identity.
From the National Clearinghouse for Alcohol and Drug Information, please see the rest of this article and related information at: http://www.health.org/features/lgbt/whoisgay.htm

 

So what's wrong with people enjoying their lives?

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Apparently, fundies and racists, such as Baronmax, don't like people that are different than them.
Whod'a thunk it?

 

As long as they don't "harm" others in doing so, I think they should be able to enjoy what they like.

But legal marriage ain't an "enjoyment", it's a legal contract between a man and a woman.

And same-sex marriage is certainly not one that does NOT cause "harm". Some people feel that they ARE "harmed" by same-sex marriage ...some feel "harmed" by even being in close proximity to homos.

As someone mentioned above ....I enjoy sitting on my front porch shooting all the minorities that walk by ....but they won't let me enjoy that no more! They said the noise from the .44 magnum was just too much in the neighborhood!! ....LOL!

Straight males can't marry males, gay males can't marry males.

Ain't no discrimination in that law at all.

Baron Max

 

Normal? Would that include males who like to suck dicks and fuck other males in the asshole? That kind of "normal", you mean?

Baron Max

 

It's not restricted by official law, it's just a common curtesy law. I've been in the women's restroom many times when the men's was filled. Heck, I've been in there with other women too. And I've been in the girl's locker room at school too since I was an aide for the class, although I only went in when the girls weren't present. However, when I helped coach the girl's varsity softball team, I was able to go in there even when the girls were in there changing. Mwuahahaha! Some of my goals in life were completed with those acts.

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Yes, but in the case of the Army, certain people fail to meet the requirements to perform a certain duty. What exactly is the duty required in marriage that only a man and woman can do? Marriage isn't about sex otherwise all the married couples who choose not to have children or those who cannot have children due to reproductive issues would be banned from marriage as well rather than just homosexuals.

What qualifications are those?

Church and State are supposed to be seperate under law.

And how's this any different from any other example of someone trying to be something they're not? Acting like people they're not? Trying to fit into a social group they're not? Some surburban white wigger actin black? Tiger Woods? (<-- joke) Or let's talk about cosmetics since a sex change is cosmetic, just a major one. People getting their teeth fixed when that's not how they actually are? Women wearing wonderbras to make their breasts bigger than they are? Girls wearing extensions to have longer hair than they do? Men wearing toupees to pretend to have real hair? Women wearing high heels to be taller than they are? People dying their hair? Guys taking penis enlarging pills? You name it, they're all fakes.

You don't think people can't be born a male or women yet feel they're the opposite sex? What do you think about hermaphrodites? Those born with both sex organs? Go ahead and call them unnatural, but they're no different than mentally retarded or physically handicapped people. Do you hold the same feeling towards handicapped people and mentally retarded people? Are you a Eugenist?

You need proof for that statement? Oh please. I guess babies really AREN'T innocent when born. Go abortionists!

No, now if that homosexual tought his child that homosexuality is the way and only way to live and all others are bad, then yeah, the child would most likely turn into a homosexual unless peer pressure changes them or drives the kid to suicide. It's no different when a black says the white man is evil or a white man says to hate all ni.. you know what I mean.

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