Rape in Africa

Discussion in 'Human Science' started by kmguru, Dec 28, 2007.

  1. kmguru Staff Member

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    These days, I think, if the male has money, the female wants him to rape her knowing that the future generation will grow up and have money to rape others to continue the cycle. Several of my yoga students admitted to go after the rich kids knowing full well that the guys were married. And the guys took the advantage very well.

    Is that the logic?
     
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  3. francois Schwat? Registered Senior Member

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    I think in that case, the women are hoping at some level that the man will break it off with the wife and start a new relationship with them. Or supply them with the genes which has made the successful husband so successful. Or both.

    Whereas in the case of women "wanting" to be raped, they most certainly consciously do not want to be raped, but yet somehow situate themselves again and again around aggressive men who tend to be rapists.

    So yeah, I can certainly see some parallels.
     
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  5. kmguru Staff Member

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    When I was a teenager, while in a deep petting situation, I almost forced myself because it felt like I was not in control, something else was....so may be that could be the case in certain situations....
     
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  7. invert_nexus Ze do caixao Valued Senior Member

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    A couple of things.

    First. They probably don't read english, thus the sign asking them not to rape actually makes them want to rape instead.

    Second. I've read somewhere a believable reason. In Africa, you have huge amounts of men moving to cities for employment. Disproportionate amounts of men compared to women equals sexual frustration. Add to this the removal of people from their traditional societies which keep them in check and it spells disaster. Same situation in Mexico. Probably lots of other places too.
     
  8. Looney Whaaaaat? Registered Senior Member

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    I think that is a crock of shit. What studies? I am sure they are totally unbiased.

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    Even rapists say their motive to rape is to over power women or other males as the case may be. They will even admit it is a power thing rather than a sexual thing. Some already have access to a willing sexual partner/s. Men who rape other men or boys will admit that they find the thought of homosexuality disgusting so it's not for the sex but for the feeling of power that is derived from it. Many rapists are known to be for the most part losers who can't relate to women in any real sense and often were victims of sexual abuse themselves. Yes, there are some women who will date someone who has raped her. She is likely someone who has suffered sexual abuse throughout her life and has not developed proper personal boundries. Most prostitutes are victims of sexual assault. The same thing is seen in women who stay with men who beat them. It's called learned helplessness. Violence is learned. Not all men are mindless neaderthal thugs. You are giving decent men a bad name.
     
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  9. visceral_instinct Monkey see, monkey denigrate Valued Senior Member

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    1. What the fuck was your question then?

    2. You were talking about how all women are terrified of having sex and how all heterosexual sex is in fact rape. I don't know about you, but that makes women sound like victims to me, and I agree with Looney, you're giving decent men a bad name.
     
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  10. Bells Staff Member

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    Where does one even begin..

    Firstly, one does not seek to be raped. One does not consent to being raped (be it by a rich or poor rapist) in the hope their rapist will then go on to take care of them and their future offspring. If a person consents, it is not considered rape.

    Do you go out and grab the first woman you see and force yourself on her without her consent? Or are you able to control your "urges"?

    And those studies are where?

    Could it be that the female in question may not understand or know that boyfriends and husbands can and do rape their girlfriends and wives? Could it be that she said no, but then he persisted and she does not understand that it is a rape? Could it also be she may feel forced to continue to stay with her rapist out of fear or reprisals if she ever went public?

    So, do you rape women thinking they want to be raped, with the knowledge you are breeding a plethora of other little rapists to go forth and plunder in the future?

    And no, as a woman, I can assure you, the last thing I would ever do would be to marry or "mate" with a man who raped me. If a man ever dared try, he would most probably find his penis and gonads in a jar by his hospital bed in jail. If either of my son's ever raped a girl, they would also suffer the same fate.
     
  11. Roman Banned Banned

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    No, nowhere did I say that (though people everywhere are astonishingly similar). Try again.

    Evolved? Unlikely. Especially since evolution requires multiple generations. But I think you knew that.

    Why don't you tell me sam?

    That's all well and dandy, but those are all proximate causes. If there's an evolutionary cause behind rape, then it's very likely environmental stress that tells the man "hey, you better mate cause you may not get a second chance."
     
  12. John99 Banned Banned

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    Dont be naive. We can look for all the excuses we want, that ^ is going through the mind of a rapist? especially the ones as decribed in this post regarding....i cant even repeat it.

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  13. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    During puberty, a young male chimp seems to wake up to the nature of the social hierarchy, and starts to respect the dominant male's position, who has his way with all the females first. Most females will let any male mate with her at this time, (even the youngest males who haven't reached puberty). Sometimes, a female is unwilling, but the males are persistent, sometimes using force or intimidation as well as stalking and even kidnapping.
     
  14. Roman Banned Banned

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    It doesn't need to be going through the mind of a rapist's head for it to be true. When you have sex, are you thinking "oh man, I better make a bunch of babies!"? No, of course you don't. You're enjoying how it feels.
     
  15. John99 Banned Banned

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    Fair enough, but humans have a distinct advantage over chimps. The humans who do rape know that it is wrong. Is armed robbery and murder related to evolution?

    Even still this is, IMO, as insignificant as fish changing sex and humans having sex changes.
     
  16. kmguru Staff Member

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    You need to read the context first, isolated it sounds bad. the posting was in reply to francois. read it again, you will get it.


    francois is a female...and hence her choice of words are excused...I understood what she was trying to say...so calm down
     
  17. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    I'm poor and stupid. Why don't you elaborate?

    what lottery tickets do the malawi buy? what environment is this guy raping?


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    I want to hear your explanation.
     
  18. DeepThought Banned Banned

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    My bwain is hurting.

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    Yes, it's true, a man's motive in raping a woman is to have power over her.

    He's not actually more powerful than her... he just imagines he is.

    There's no violence involved in normal sex between 'lovers'.

    A man doesn't have to force his penis into a woman, he just yells "open sesame!" and God does the rest. How wonderful to live in a world still controlled by fairy tales and magic.

    A man must control his 'urges'. These 'urges' come from his nature and we all know, don't we, how terrible nature is.

    Being weak, physically and mentally, is being 'right'. In nature weakness is eradicated. In human society, where humans make up laws, weakness is a virtue we should all aim for.

    Women are as strong as men. Blacks are as intelligent as whites. Children should rule the world.
     
  19. visceral_instinct Monkey see, monkey denigrate Valued Senior Member

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    How about you grow up, quit your hysterical ranting, and tell me, logically and rationally, why you think I am wrong.

    You keep insisting that normal sex between heterosexual lovers is an act of violence/rape/whatever where the man asserts his power over the female. How the hell is that? So even if the woman was yanking at the man's clothes, running her hands all over him, and pestering him for sex, she was raped, because she is a woman and therefore inherently a victim? Idiotic.

    And what the hell's with that comment about black and white people? Let me guess, you believe that black people are less intelligent than whites.

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  20. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    Africa in general is inhabited by less developed, primitive societies which are unable to peacefully govern themselves. The continent is full of such examples.

    An apparent solution for them is to let more advanced civilizations (European, Chinese or American) to guide and govern their existance in the hope that in a thousand years maybe they'll develop into modern humans.

    Despite the globalization the development age of a particular society is relative. Middle East, for example, is still living at the same level as Europe was in the middle ages. Most of Africa is still inhabited by neolithic societies.
     
  21. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Been to Africa and the Middle East? You might be in for some surprises.
     
  22. kmguru Staff Member

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    The worst country in Africa could easily be modernized in less than 20 years. We deal with them on a daily basis. Their knowledge is like swiss cheese. Plug the holes, they are as good if not better than any western country.
     
  23. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    kmguru, what do you think of microcredit finance as a way of empowering the people, especially women?
     

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