Proposal: Quran detailing stuff impossible to know without modern scientific gear

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  1. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Shit. Well, I'm not going after it, unless a quarter falls in also.
     
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  3. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    I hope this thread is interesting and not a total waste of time. Please no "stages" of embryology or medicinal honey either!
     
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  5. scifes heckle the snobs Valued Senior Member

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    hey keep your mouth shut, you're gonna spoil the fun

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  7. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    So maybe we can clarify something. If I show that something in the Quran is wrong, does that negate the examples that appears to show anamolous knowledge?
     
  8. Nasor Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, this is a key issue that needs to be clarified before the debate starts. Is anyone going to be impressed if out of a thousand "scientific" claims 1 turns out to be "amazingly" correct and 999 are wrong?

    I could write a book right now making all sorts of scientific predictions that no one today could possible know, but that will be verified as correct in the future...so long as no one cares about my success rate. If scifes only needs to pull one scientifically-correct fact from the Quran with no regard for the overall scientific accuracy in order to win the debate, then I don't think it's going to be of much interest to anyone. Even a stopped clock is right twice per day.
     
  9. Michael 歌舞伎 Valued Senior Member

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    I like this.
     
  10. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    No worries. There isn't a single thing in that book matching the OP claims.
     
  11. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    This proposal is now 10 days old.

    Are there any agreed debaters to take on scifes?
    Is there an agreed format for the debate?
     
  12. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    I'm ready now. I don't know about the format.
     
  13. scifes heckle the snobs Valued Senior Member

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    that's interesting, yet complex, but;
    not within the op, this debate IS easy for me spider, all i need to do is give one scientific fact given in the quran which is impossible to be found under the conditions the quran was written in, i.e without modern scientific gear..

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    hah, says the one who forfeited.

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    check #8 and confirm.

    and btw, now i'm the one who's busy, i've got a fat ass assignment on my plate, but i DO have 3 days to reply to any post, if you agree to my format of course.
     
  14. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    scifes, iceaura did not forfeit. We've discussed this.
     
  15. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    I agree to the format. My only other concern is that the quote from the Quran be specific. In other words, it cannot simply be a poetic verse that you happen to interpret as referring to an aspect of modern science.
     
  16. scifes heckle the snobs Valued Senior Member

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    alright, i'm working on my first post, if you want to beat me to it with some introduction or comments or anything, i don't mind.

    \feeling REAL nervous:bawl:
     
  17. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    So, let me summarise:

    Topic: The Qur'an details scientific facts that are impossible to know without modern scientific equipement.
    Affirmative side: scifes
    Negative side: spidergoat

    Format:

    10 posts for each debater.
    After each post, the other debater has 3 days to post his next post otherwise he forfeits (unless allowed extra time by his opponent).

    Anything to add to that?

    Since scifes is arguing the affirmative case, he should open a Debate thread and post his first post. Also, please start a Discussion thread for the topic.
     
  18. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    Where's the debate thread, scifes? How about we agree if you don't post something by Feb. 20, I win by default?
     
  19. scifes heckle the snobs Valued Senior Member

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    well i do not agree

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    i'm busier than you can imagine, and am not so hot on starting this crooked from the beginning, but way to go with the pressure, you'd better make me regret this.
     
  20. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    The verbal fencing continues.
     
  21. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    The debate has now started:

    [thread=99739]Debate thread[/thread]
    [thread=99741]Discussion thread[/thread]
     
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