Presidential debate

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  1. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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  5. Schmelzer Valued Senior Member

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    You obviously believe too much of your own propaganda. The Russians don't support Putin for being a mob boss, and does not work with threats.
    Two new wars. Libya and Syria have been destroyed by US-supported terrorism. No new officially declared wars, ok. But I wrote, terrorist wars. Whenever the situation was close to a war, Trump has stopped. Biden did not stop, Libya and Syria have been destroyed, and in the Ukraine the people have nice memories about happy Yanukovich times.

    There is no intelligence to respect if somebody believes such completely stupid nonsense like "Putin poisoned Navalny".

    If the Russians really want to kill somebody with poison, he will not survive.
    Of course, the West is known to repeat successful false flag attacks. Same game as all those gas attacks in Syria "by Assad".

    For those with some intelligence, the weak point of such repetitions is that every time they repeat the game they care less about the details. But for the Western sheeple even completely implausible stories seem sufficient. Repeat the lies often enough, that's sufficient.
     
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  7. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    If that guy could twist his dick like he twists the facts, then he could go fuck himself.
     
  8. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Is that correct? No I didn't listen to the whole debate because that fool you call a President makes me want to spew, but are you saying he did dismiss fully white supremacists? Or did he just whinge and complain about the extremists on the other side?
    Fact is the world in general, both left and right of the political spectrum, see him as a dangerous moron, much like his North Korean counterpart.
    It appears now that your hero, the guy who dismissed coronvirus on numerous occasions, and has dissed general precautions that should be taken, etc, now along with his wife, has tested positive.
    No I don't wish harm on anyone, but is this a good example of something coming back to bite you on the arse?

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  9. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    One aspect of the Presidential debate I find totally relevant is illustrated in the following.......

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  10. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    What facts did he twist exactly?
     
  11. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    And if the rolls were reversed?

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    Good onya Joe!!
     
  12. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    TRump did not tell the pretty boys(or whatever they call themselves?) to "stand by". He told them to stand down and let law enforcement do their jobs. It seems that the "stand by" thing was created by a reporter.
     
  13. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    your seriously going to lie about something so easily refuted. what trump said was to stand back and stand by



    jesus fuck man at least try. he never said to stand down.

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/stand-down
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/stand back
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/standby
     
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  14. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    Trump says he doesn't know Proud Boys, but 'they need to stand down,
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...proud-boys-after-criticism-debate/5870564002/

    Trump now tells far right to 'stand down' amid white supremacy row
    https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-54359993

    Trump says Proud Boys should 'stand down' after backlash to debate comments
    https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...ys-should-stand-down-after-backlash-to-debate

    Trump says Proud Boys should ‘stand down’: US election news
    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020...gn-after-chaotic-debate-us-election-live-news

     
  15. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    From YOUR link, the story is told, but I don't think you actually read your own citations.

    "President Donald Trump has said a far-right group should "stand down" and let law enforcement do its work, after his refusal to explicitly condemn the group in a TV debate sparked a backlash.
    Mr Trump said "I don't know who the Proud Boys are", a day after urging them in the election debate with Joe Biden to "stand back and stand by".

    Proud Boys members called his debate comments "historic" and an endorsement."
     
  16. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    Dear Leader is great. You guys are doing to get into trouble if you keep talking about him.
     
  17. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    nice ass save but we were specifically talking about the debate for those of us who can read. you specifically claimed the meme was lying when they specifically were referring to the debate. so good job your still wrong.
     
  18. Hipparchia Registered Senior Member

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    I cannot figure out whether you are ill informed, or just dishonest. Having reviewed the relevant portion of the debate do you accept that Trump did not tell the Proud Boys to stand down? Yes, or No?
     
  19. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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  20. Hipparchia Registered Senior Member

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    Which answers my question - you were ill informed. Apparently as a consequence of sloppy groundwork. Ah well.
     
  21. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Long-standing Republican programs, predating Biden's executive influence, are the US contribution. Support for the State terrorism involved is Russia's contribution. Don't forget Israel and Turkey and Saudi Arabia, Trump allies and terrorism supporters throughout, and also the severe drought and economic dislocation from climate change, along with Iran's continuing campaign against its own Kurds on top of its defense against Republican instigation of guerrilla assaults against the Revolutionary government (not as big a factor, but some effect in Syria ). But the Syrian State would be the major source of terrorism in Syria - most of the terrorism in this world is State organized and

    Biden's contribution was to back the Republican invasion of Iraq - which Republican Trump also supported, including explicitly the torture prisons and other terroristic tactics. Trump has spoken in favor of relaunching and expanding the US Republican torture operations and related terrorism in several arenas, including both Libya and Syria ( as well as several other countries on three or four continents), and one of his first executive actions as President was to expand the terroristic drone strikes in the Middle East.

    US backing for terrorism in Syria dates back to Reagan or earlier ( Russian backing came in later). So does the US terrorism against Libya.
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    He's more honest and straightforward than you are by quite a bit.
    There's no need for you to fuck yourself, of course - the Confederacy you have thrown in with will do the job handily. And you can always blame the liberals, or "both sides", or the like, now that you have dispensed with any need to square your worldview with historical or physical reality - nobody expects coherence or sense or good faith from you guys any more.
    It is no longer a matter of you being played - you have become a willing collaborator in the national ass-covering poo-fling, almost a source in yourself.
    Bullshit. These posts of yours are not accidents.
    You've had years to learn better, and chose instead to throw in with the bad guys. You chose with open eyes, deliberately and repeatedly and on purpose, and if you attempt to extricate yourself now you will find - if you try to recover some dimly remembered integrity you think you once had - that you can't.

    The Proud Boys heard Trump tell them to stand by. (They adopted the slogan within hours: https://www.motherjones.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/blog_proud_boys-1.jpg?w=990)
    So did everybody else who listened to Trump talk.
    Trump's been saying stuff like that for years now. That's how he won the support of the Republican voting base.
    Trump knows who his voters and thugs are - he's had Proud Boys and other KKK heirs at his rallies for years now, he has employed high level advisors and staff with personal connections to them for his entire Presidency and years before. He never has and never will actually tell them to stand down - they know that.

    And you, like every other American, know that.
     
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  22. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    He has convenient and frequent bouts of intentional misunderstanding.

    Hey, if you ignore 90% of what Trump says and does, he doesn't seem all that bad.
     
  23. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    say what you will
    but
    "stand back" and notice that doug witt did not convey an complete rendition of what was said.

    "I'm a veteran"
    Join the fucking club asshole.
     

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