President Schwarzenegger

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Godless, Jan 27, 2005.

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  1. Godless Objectivist Mind Registered Senior Member

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    Popes today have more media celebrity status, then ever before. People are people, and these sob's would commit sins of the flesh if they could. However the old guy now, a viagra might even kill him!.

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    No doubt! however I've heard rummors of initiating a "lock box" LOL!!.



    Well there you go!!. Choose what ever is the lesser evil!. This time around it seemed like Kerry would have been the less of two evils. The other pundit already proved to be a slander lying jackass that started a war on "false pretence".

    Perhaps because two brothers got bullets in their head!.? :bugeye:

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  3. Muhlenberg Registered Senior Member

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    They were the good brothers too. Teddy is an abomination. Time for him to go sailing with his buddy Cronkite. He's done enough damage to the country.

    Btw...Teddy, Hillary, Daschle, Byrd, Gore, Pelosi, Berger and most every other Democrat said the exact thing Bush did about Saddam. In 2002, Hillary even went further. She said he was harboing Al Qaeda and working on nukes. They all changed their tune after they voted for the war in 2002 (and had voted for or supported regime change in Iraq in 1998). They had no other issue to run on. A couple went first, saw that the base of the party--government union workers--agreed with them and never looked back.

    That Democrats play people for idiots who don't remember tha they said two years ago is why they are losing power.
     
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  5. Karmashock The Doomslayer Registered Senior Member

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    I'm not a catholic, but I honestly believe the Pope is a good guy.

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    Again, most republicans don't like bush... but a democrat is worse for us.

    If we had a decent choice, then we would have gotten rid of him. Kerry was not acceptable. When was the last time someone from the North East was even elected?... Kerry is like the last person we could support... gore was better...
     
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  7. Godless Objectivist Mind Registered Senior Member

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    This is exactly the same reason I created the word; Reprocrat. Because they are both practically the same.



    Well I can't speak for the guy, I merely made a joke!.

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    {I'm an atheist I'm aloud to do that}

    What we need is a new law at the Vatican make popes so freaking old, that they only reign that power for less than a decade, before they perish to lalaholy land, this way we secularist make sure not any more kids get seduced!!. :bugeye:



    Not if this REPUBLICAN!! is leading the coutry to perpetual war!!.

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  8. Karmashock The Doomslayer Registered Senior Member

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    I disagree. The two groups have very different visions.


    Actually, they already do that on purpose. They just do it to make sure that they don't have to mess with anyone for too long.

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    It takes WORK to maintain things. That means there is GOING to be war and there are GOING to be conflicts. Sometimes these conflicts are going to be AGAINST what your friends want to do and sometimes they'll come along.

    If you just take the path of least resistence every time then you'll just degenerate. And yes, I think the only way the US could avoid getting called names is by just being a no conflict, irrelevant, ghost. We're not... and the world will be better for it.

    Love and peace, Karmashock.
     
  9. Neildo Gone Registered Senior Member

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    There’s more than just two candidates to vote for as President, ya know.

    Yeah, but they only came to those conclusions due to the false information and propoganda given to them. If all this WMD junk and other crap said by the Bush Administration was known to be false in the first place, the Democrats would have been singing a different tune.

    Whoever controls information, controls everything. This is why whoever is elected as President isn’t of much concern but rather the cabinet that’s in office who actually run the show. The President bases his opinion off the information given to him by them and information can easily be manipulated to make a person make a decision that they want them to. I actually don’t have much of a problem with Bush other than his strong religious bias in some of his decisions, it’s his administration that I dislike so much.

    Think of all the wars in the past 50 years. Exactly how wereany of those countries that we fought a problem and a threat towards maintaining OUR country that would make us go to such an extreme as to go to war with them? Funny, besides 9/11, all the threats, damage, and terrorist acts that have happened on American soil have been from the American people themselves yet we're going after other countries for those acts. The only threat there is to America is ourselves and our government.

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  10. Muhlenberg Registered Senior Member

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    Democrats said it all before Bush was elected. Read the floor speeches when Democrats voted overwhelmingly for regime change in Iraq in 1998.

    Do how did Bush hoodwink them almost three years before he took office?
     
  11. Neildo Gone Registered Senior Member

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    Oh, I'm not saying they had absolutely no problem with Iraq, but the strong conviction of those feelings were greatly enhanced by further made-up threats of Iraq. The reasons they spoke of are entirely different from the reasons of us actually going to war with Iraq. Only now are those past reasons being used as an excuse to cover the mess of why we went to war with Iraq.

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  12. Muhlenberg Registered Senior Member

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    Democrats said the things before Bush was elected. Look up Sandy Berger's and Gore's comments. Think the vote in teh Senate was almost unanimous in 1998. In the house only half a dozen or so voted nay.

    The only reason why they changed was they thought it was a political issue they could use.
     
  13. Muhlenberg Registered Senior Member

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    Neildo...as you may recall, it was about the time Democrats voted for the Iraqi Liberation Act of 1998 that Clinton tossed around 400 cruise missiles into the country. We had planes over the country all the time being shot at.

    Democrats sure thought Saddam was a threat then.

    And they did until early in 2003 when they needed a political issue.

    Now they are out repeating the mindless chant that Bush lied. Over and over. They think people are fools and don't remember their actions and their comments.
     
  14. Karmashock The Doomslayer Registered Senior Member

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    Not that have a chance in hell of winning.

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  15. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Ha! Sweet irony........
    ........and you call it "Democracy"......

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  16. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    It is flexible, open-minded, has no doctrine, it frees you, it is simple, straightforward and encompass all things.

    Do you mean "heroin"?
    No, that is not spiritual. That is forced. Spiritual cannot be forced.
    You wouldn't really feel at one with the universe, you would get there in an illusive manner. Some drugs can increase your awareness, resulting in the feeling of being at one with the universe, but it is illusive, limited and not longlasting. It is almost like a caricature of the real feeling.

    You cannot get spiritual enlightnment that easily. It requires a self-sustained increased awareness. Weed is like booze- it affects the mind more than the spirit.

    ....?

    Because those people are created by our society. Try researching how many people in jail were either abused or neglected during their childhood. Statistics show that 99% of people in jail fall in that category. It is clear there is a correlation. This is the reality that was created by our society. We create those people and than punish them for what we created them to do.

    Riiiiiight...
    Go ahead. I already shown you some of what I got.

    If it works for society, it works for individuals. Sure we often have to make sacrifices for the good of all. But that doesn't mean 3 billion people starving. :bugeye:
     
  17. Muhlenberg Registered Senior Member

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    TruthSeeker....yeah we call it a democracy. Why? Because America is a democratically elected constitutional republic.

    If you want to lament about a lose of "democracy" look to the courts which have usurped the power of both the legislative and executive branches.

    Oddly enough, those who extol "democracy", are the same ones who want judges, not elected officials to decide the most contentious issues of the day.
     
  18. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    So.... it is a democracy even if none of the candidates can possibly represent you? Not to mention you have only two choices (let us not include Ralph Nader, as he wasn't quite in a position to really compete).

    Hurray!

    Not me tough. I'm actually against a law system altogether. Altough I tough recognize the necessity of one at the present moment. Should judges be elected? Sure. "How" is probably the question...
     
  19. Odin'Izm Procrastinator Registered Senior Member

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    I think judges should be elected by lawyers that way you will have a nice little buissiness of justice going on

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  20. suzukisfrog Registered Senior Member

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    arnie is a nazi.
     
  21. Muhlenberg Registered Senior Member

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    suzukisfrog

    Israel has a cool system. Its Supreme Court has the power to select its own members. That power isn't in the Israeli Constiution because Israel doesn't have a constitution. The judges just decided they have that power. Among many others nobody thought they did.

    Oh...and Arnold isn't a Nazi. Not anymore. He paid Rabbi Marvin Hier, CEO of the Simon Wiesenthal Center, some serious money to have that charge dropped.

    But perhaps Arnold was required to keep up payments for life and reneged on the deal. Considering what was said about him when he ran for office, that seems to be the case.
     
  22. Karmashock The Doomslayer Registered Senior Member

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    he never was a nazi...
     
  23. suzukisfrog Registered Senior Member

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    right, neither was hitler. :bugeye:

    and regardless, if he ran for president, hillary would be screaming it every day until the polls open. arnold is not electable even if it were legal.
     
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