# Possibility of star formation around black holes

Discussion in 'Alternative Theories' started by Beaconator, Jan 27, 2014.

1. ### brucepValued Senior Member

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It's his knucklehead interpretation of the relativistic energy equation.

In geometric units

E^2 = m^2 + p^2

In conventional units

E^2_conv = (mc^2)^2 + p^2_conv c^2

And no he can't add anything to the derivation as you already know. He could learn how the derivation is achieved but I'm thinking that's out of the question. When the momentum is 0 the invariant mass equals the invariant energy and this is what led to the Manhattan project. The mass is invariant by definition [some discussion required to formulate a proof] and the momentum and energy are constants of the motion. He could find the derivation in chapter 1, Speeding, of the text Exploring Black Holes.

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3. ### Dr_ToadIt's green!Valued Senior Member

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Someone else to ignore. Bruce, it works like a charm! Thanks.

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5. ### brucepValued Senior Member

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It does if you don't start any threads. I think that was my second thread since I became a member.

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7. ### James RJust this guy, you know?Staff Member

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Careful! That equation is dimensionally incorrect. You forgot to square the P.

Not like that it can't. That equation would be dimensionally incorrect even if you corrected the error on the P.

We don't even need to worry about what a hyperjerk is - though I think I have an idea.

8. ### BeaconatorRegistered Senior Member

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an integrally costly mistake on my part.
If you knew what it was you would have defined it. If it were acceleration^2 you would need an equation that was circular at best in its efforts to explain time. But this is the nature of time and history to be circular.

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9. ### BeaconatorRegistered Senior Member

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I can not rewrite history. Even in the most absent of minds. But I will contest in the most extreme values are the simplest design.

10. ### Dr_ToadIt's green!Valued Senior Member

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