planets orbit like their stars vibrate ?

Discussion in 'Alternative Theories' started by nebel, Feb 16, 2017.

  1. origin In a democracy you deserve the leaders you elect. Valued Senior Member

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    Well that is good, you finally are listening!
    Oops, back to inane bull shit, too bad, but not surprising...
     
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  3. nebel

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    Oops, too bad, origin, that good contributor going off on a tangent. The Analogy of standing waves in a bathtub sloshing around and keeping ducks in certain places, the troughs, are words used by Prof. Halpern of Philadelphia, not nebel's. You probably can get the book at the public library, as I did, and read it yourself. Justifying calling an accomplished author's work BS is a bold move, task.
    On another language site's discussion of --Solar pulsations, as radiated waves to shape Planet orbits, -- the valid objection was raised, that these have never been measured. Nebel's response is, that
    these perturbations that , Chladni-plate-like, rattled proto -planetary disks matter into rings (as we see in the ALMA images), were features of a y0unger , more unsettled Sun, of wich we today are seeing only a faint echo. and
    Material being herded into areas defined by orbit radius (that correspond to Pulsation wave length) can even now be seen around the Lagrangian points L4 and 5, gravity wells still holding the Trojans and Hildas that would be found located in the troughs of the prior standing waves.
    Examples, of how 2 or more pulse sources*, will create standing wave patterns, are published on Google images. *of which the Sun is known to have many,
     
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  5. nebel

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    here from Science Daily how stars vibrate:
    "--New space telescopes allow astronomers to 'see' the waves that originate in the deep interior of the stars. This makes it possible to study these stars using asteroseismology, a similar technique to how seismologists use earthquakes to study the Earth's interior.--"
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/images/2019/05/190506124121_1_540x360.jpg
    <www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/05/190506124121.htm>
    A standing wave pattern resulting from multiple resonant sources in the planetary field would look like that blue disk above.
     
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    Mercury 0.387 AU
    vs Bode n0. 4 = 3.25 % deviation

    Venus0.723 AU
    vs Bode no. 7 = 3.18% deviation. but

    There is a near zero deviation from the theoretical Bode (stellar pulsation model) when you measure the orbits in orbiting time rather in AU size. In eccentric orbits such as Mercury and Mars, the planets spend more time at aphelion then perihelion. so,
    the Mercury semi major axis, .387 AU is actually less than
    the semi major time axis. of ,399 AU. Mercury orbit turns out to be .018 % accurate in Bode theory and timespace.
     
  9. river

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    Nebel what then is your conculsion ?

    For the rest of us .
     
  10. nebel

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    To me, there is no conclusion. yet. I worked with the 5 minute solar pulsation = 300 light second, .3 AU of the 1000 light second Earth orbit diameter. Earlier,
    A Russian astronomer astrophysicist worked withe the 160 minute solar pulse. Analogy being the outer 9.6 AU planetary spacings.
    I put this out here as interesting facts. too close and numerous to be co-incidences.
    Possibly there will be a underlying structure discovered, not novel, because other, already known laws of Nature very well and precisely account for these measurements.
    Numbers or the lack of them, like zero - velocity or zero - time zones revealing a pattern.
    The comfort that comes from living, fitting in an order
    Either our system of stability, based as it seems on resonances, is unique, perhaps essential, indicative for life, or
    it is common, as we expand our discovery, either way, it will be telling.
    I love harmonic resonances on our baby grand, just about the range of Solar system frequencies.
     
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